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What is wrong with celebrating birthdays?

Thanda

Well-Known Member
Not a thing.

Except one thing.

Everybody celebrates birthdays like they were some huge accomplishment for the Birthday Boy (or girl), when in reality, happy birthday wishes should be given to Mom.

I don't care WHAT Mom did after the kid arrived.

"Happy Birthday to you,
to your Mom thanks are due.
Every year is another
year that she gave to you.


When you party today
Mom is smiling away,
thinking of that first birthday
When she was yelling AARRGGGGHHH!!!!!

Do I know what I'm talking about?

You bet I do. I have five kids.

I think they birthday wishes should actually be given to Dad - I don't get WHAT Dad did after intercourse!:p
 

Saint Frankenstein

Here for the ride
Premium Member
So, what you are trying to say is wrong with those people who don't celebrate their birthday? I guess they are humble people. What do you think?
I find that the ones using religious reasoning for not doing are restricting themselves based on fear and have something against "pagan" practices.
 

dianaiad

Well-Known Member
I think they birthday wishes should actually be given to Dad - I don't get WHAT Dad did after intercourse!:p

True, but unless he was fainting and getting in everybody's way, HE wasn't doing anything on the actual B-day. At least, nothing physically painful. ;)
 

Sammeleh

Member
To me it seems likely those Europeans connected such celebrating with pagan rituals because of history.
Both secular and biblical history.

I found a quote from a Dr. John C. McCollister saying that the 'Christians did Not even celebrate the Lord's birthday because all birthdays was a custom of the pagans'.
Idolatrous rites were performed in honor of the patron gods particular birthdays, such as the mythical gods like Saturn and Apollo.

Two Bible references mention Pharaoh of Egypt and Herod Antipas where both birthdays were marked with great feasting and granting of favors, and both are remembered because of 'executions'.
Pharaoh's chief baker was hung, and John the baptizer was beheaded according to Genesis 40:18-22; Genesis 41:13; Matthew 14:6-11; Mark 6:21-28.
Yes. Don't you find it interesting that the "date" of Jesus' birthday was not verified in the Bible, but is a made-up date taking over pagan practices? (I do.) There is no mention of celebrating the Lord's birthday (or any other birthday) by the disciples in the Bible.
 

Sammeleh

Member
Very true, we are only born on one day. And every year thereafter we've been given the gift of another year of life. Something that in my opinion is worthy of celebration.
Yes, well just imagine those poor souls born on the last day of February in a leap year having to pretend they were born on another day in other years if they want to "celebrate life" on their birthday.
 

dianaiad

Well-Known Member
Well, my own personal opinion on this whole matter (well, the part of my opinion that wasn't expressed in that bit of doggerel I submitted earlier) is that...hey. Celebrate Life anytime you want to, and if that includes celebrating a specific day for a birthday, go for it. Why let what anybody else thinks affect YOUR specific celebration of life and living? Celebrate your birthday. Then tomorrow, sing "a very merry unbirthday, to you..." and enjoy some more life.

As to celebrating Jesus' birthday on December 25th...why not? It's good for us. Family time, a way to cheer up a miserable season (well, in the north hemisphere, anyway) to think about what other people want...that is, if we've grown up enough. So the Christians went and baptized the equinox for the purpose when Jesus wasn't born on the 25th? So what? We 'baptized' all the pagan traditions that went with it, too. I approve. Most of 'em are fun.

As for me, I get to celebrate His birth twice a year; once at Christmas and again, rather more sedately and 'religiously,' in April. Then there is Easter...named after a pagan goddess..which should probably be called 'resurrection Sunday,' but who cares?

Pick a day and celebrate something. It's good for the blood pressure.
 

Daisies4me

Active Member
Well, my own personal opinion on this whole matter (well, the part of my opinion that wasn't expressed in that bit of doggerel I submitted earlier) is that...hey. Celebrate Life anytime you want to, and if that includes celebrating a specific day for a birthday, go for it. Why let what anybody else thinks affect YOUR specific celebration of life and living? Celebrate your birthday. Then tomorrow, sing "a very merry unbirthday, to you..." and enjoy some more life.

As to celebrating Jesus' birthday on December 25th...why not? It's good for us. Family time, a way to cheer up a miserable season (well, in the north hemisphere, anyway) to think about what other people want...that is, if we've grown up enough. So the Christians went and baptized the equinox for the purpose when Jesus wasn't born on the 25th? So what? We 'baptized' all the pagan traditions that went with it, too. I approve. Most of 'em are fun.

As for me, I get to celebrate His birth twice a year; once at Christmas and again, rather more sedately and 'religiously,' in April. Then there is Easter...named after a pagan goddess..which should probably be called 'resurrection Sunday,' but who cares?

Pick a day and celebrate something. It's good for the blood pressure.
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thanks for your thoughts on the matter. many people feel as you do. Some of us have at one time felt pretty much the same way. But when we began to search out the Scriptures and God's instructions to us, we learned that He disapproved of such things, and why He disapproves. So, for me, it took some time and some study to prove to myself that there was certainly a valid reason why those who are trying to obey God and live by His rules, could not in good conscience continue to follow or participate in the traditions of men when such things originated not from God, but from the archenemy of God. Those who would aspire to draw all they can, away from the hope God has given to those who obey him, and after the 'false' gods, masquerading as 'angels of light', in order to deceive and lure people into a lifestyle that could eventually cost them their lives.
2 Corinthians 11:14 expounds on the thought.
mind you, we do not attempt to prevent any who choose to join in such events, other than offer the true origin of such things, for your own perusal. I appreciate the persons who took time to show me in the Bible such things, so that I could make an educated decision about my own choices, and so that I am now 'set free' from the trappings of false gods and it is very liberating. THe Bible tells us that we will 'know the truth, and the truth will set you free'--- and an indepth Bible study certainly offers that option for any who desire to learn about it.
 

QuestioningMind

Well-Known Member
(quote)

How about everlasting life, in paradise, where no one will ever get sick again, or die?
Now, that hope is a thing to look forward to, imo.
how you find it

What a wonderful little fantasy. But it would be silly for me to hope and look forward to such a thing when there is absolutely no evidence that such a place exists beyond people's hopes and fantasies. Instead I'll continue to get as much joy and happiness out of this life that I DO know exists for as long as it happens to last.
 

QuestioningMind

Well-Known Member
One asks because one finds it odd to "celebrate life" once a year on a specific day.

It would be odd to celebrate life only one day a year. That's why I celebrate my life each and every day of the year, the anniversary of my birth included. The only difference is that on my birthday there are usually others who wish to celebrate the fact that I'm alive as well, even though they tend to express their thankfulness that I'm alive throughout the year.
 

QuestioningMind

Well-Known Member
Yes, well just imagine those poor souls born on the last day of February in a leap year having to pretend they were born on another day in other years if they want to "celebrate life" on their birthday.

What a bizarre way to look at it. Do you honestly believe that people born in February during a leap year are any less grateful for each year that they live? Personally I can't imagine how that would be a problem for anyone. But I suppose that there might be others like you who actually see them as 'poor souls'.
 

Spideymon77

A Smiling Empty Soul
I always try to celebrate the chance to be alive and breathing. My birthday gives me an excuse to preach about it.
 

Sammeleh

Member
What a bizarre way to look at it. Do you honestly believe that people born in February during a leap year are any less grateful for each year that they live? Personally I can't imagine how that would be a problem for anyone. But I suppose that there might be others like you who actually see them as 'poor souls'.
To be grateful for your life is different than receiving gifts one day each year because you are alive. But if you like that idea of celebrating one's life (or birth) one day a year by giving and receiving gifts on that day, however it works out as in a leap year, carry on. Life, however, is the gift.
 

Sammeleh

Member
What a wonderful little fantasy. But it would be silly for me to hope and look forward to such a thing when there is absolutely no evidence that such a place exists beyond people's hopes and fantasies. Instead I'll continue to get as much joy and happiness out of this life that I DO know exists for as long as it happens to last.
And you can figure when it's gone you won't know or be celebrating. It sounds like the voyage on the Titanic. But Jesus said we can live forever. No need to celebrate one day a year by getting gifts just because I'm alive.
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
Yes. Don't you find it interesting that the "date" of Jesus' birthday was not verified in the Bible, but is a made-up date taking over pagan practices? (I do.)
There is no mention of celebrating the Lord's birthday (or any other birthday) by the disciples in the Bible.

I agree, and apparently we should celebrate in the same way the disciples did: they didn't.
 
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