What is wrong with critizing crimes of a prophet?

[Spiderman]

King David was an adulterer and a murderer. Christians and Jews don't deny it. God doesn't deny it. God punnished him.

King David was called "a man after God's own heart". He also was a King of God's nation that he was Divinely called to be. He also was priest and prophet who wrote sacred Scriptures. But he also was a great sinner.

If it is okay to criticize and detest the actions of this prophet of God , why is it such a crime if Muslims speak against the sins and crimes of their prophet. It is important to condemn wicked behavior, because many people justify wicked behavior in our present world because their prophet did the same thing.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

He also was priest and prophet who wrote sacred Scripture.

You're funny.

 

[Spiderman]

You're funny.

Then why don't you *ing laugh

 

[savagewind]

I think it is a good idea "he was a priest" He wasn't but if he lived now I'd vote him in. I think he would make an excellent priest, but not a Catholic priest.

 

[Spiderman]

I think King David was a priest:
Was King David a Priest? I Say Yes. - Catholic Answers Forums

Not a Catholic priest obviously

“The Lord has sworn and will not change his mind, ‘You are a priest forever after the order of Melchizedek’” (Ps. 110:4).

- Psalm 110

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

Then why don't you *ing laugh

Probably the same reason that you don't *ing learn. In each case we presumably deem the action not worth the effort.

 

[Spiderman]

Probably the same reason that you don't *ing learn. In each case we presumably deem the action not worth the effort.

King David did write Sacred Scripture. Are the Psalms not Scripture?

David also believed in the priesthood of the king. He and his sons were priests “forever” after the order of Melchizedek (Ps. 110:4).

 

[savagewind]

King David did write Sacred Scripture. Are the Psalms not Scripture?

My advice? Do not worry about what he says.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

King David did write Sacred Scripture.

From Wikipedia:

Seventy-three of the 150 psalms in the Bible are attributed to King David, one of the Dead Sea Scrolls (11QPsa) attributes 3600 tehilim (songs of praise) plus other compositions to him. Nevertheless, there is no hard evidence for Davidic authorship of any of them. "Davidic authorship is not accepted as historical fact by modern scholars," noteAdele Berlin and Marc Zvi Brettler in the Jewish Study Bible, but is seen rather as the way in which the ancients "confirm[ed] the divine inspiration and authority" of the writings by linking them to well-known biblical figures.

And this rejection of the claim conforms with archaeological/philological evidence.

So, let me get this straight, you are a Jew and apparently I know who King David was better than you.

No. You're simply unread.

 

[Spiderman]

From Wikipedia:

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And this rejection of the claim conforms with archaeological/philological evidence.

No. You're simply unread.

Yeah...right...they were there....people say a lot of things. The majority are wrong and you are right...ok
A Priest Forever | Reformed Bible Studies & Devotionals at Ligonier.org

 

[Drolefille]

Yeah...right...they were there....people say a lot of things. The majority are wrong and you are right...ok

Or, you know, historians are speaking about history. Your superiority complex - "Oh so you're a Jew and I know David better than you" is so immature and very un-Christian. The Jesuits who taught me encouraged looking at the historical record, taught entire classes on it. They certainly didn't go "Oh look at me I have SJ after my name and I'm so much smarter than you."

 

[Deidre]

Because no one blames King David for all the adultery and murder in the world. He's merely pointed out to be a sinner, yet he atoned for his 'sins,' and became a great leader because he repented. (That's the basic moral)

Many blame Muhammed however, for the actions of extremist terrorist groups, from yester-century through modern times. (you do)

 

[Spiderman]

Or, you know, historians are speaking about history. Your superiority complex - "Oh so you're a Jew and I know David better than you" is so immature and very un-Christian. The Jesuits who taught me encouraged looking at the historical record, taught entire classes on it. They certainly didn't go "Oh look at me I have SJ after my name and I'm so much smarter than you."

I apologize for my words. At that time, what I thought he/she was saying is that King David wasn't a priest. King David did write some of the psalms im pretty sure but I wasn't there...but the majority says he did.

But I apologize for my unchristian immature words. Im a fallible creature who makes mistakes.

Because no one blames King David for all the adultery and murder in the world. He's merely pointed out to be a sinner, yet he atoned for his 'sins,' and became a great leader because he repented. (That's the basic moral)

Many blame Muhammed however, for the actions of extremist terrorist groups, from yester-century through modern times. (you do)

I blame Muhammad insofar as those who cut off heads in the name of Allah, and declare Jihads, are doing what Muhammad did and obeying what Muhammad commanded his followers to do.

Edit: King David repented. Muhammad Did NOT!

 

[Drolefille]

I apologize for my words. At that time, what I thought he/she was saying is that King David wasn't a priest. King David did write some of the psalms im pretty sure but I wasn't there...but the majority says he did.

But I apologize for my unchristian immature words. Im a fallible creature who makes mistakes.



I blame Muhammad insofar as those who cut off heads in the name of Allah, and declare Jihads, are doing what Muhammad did and obeying what Muhammad commanded his followers to do.

Edit: King David repented. Muhammad Did NOT!

A) The majority of historians do not say this
B) You don't know who repented of what.

 

[Spiderman]

A) The majority of historians do not say this
B) You don't know who repented of what.

I know what the bible says

 

[Drolefille]

I know what the bible says

You miss the point a lot. I think it's deliberate.

A) Catholics don't teach the bible is literally accurate nor even that authorship is necessarily as it is traditionally held to be. You know this so stop deliberately misunderstanding.
B) There were two people you mentioned, you stated that Muhammad didn't repent and you don't know what he did or did not repent for. You don't know whether Hitler repented. You don't know whether John Paul II did either.

 

[Union]

I apologize for my words. At that time, what I thought he/she was saying is that King David wasn't a priest. King David did write some of the psalms im pretty sure but I wasn't there...but the majority says he did.

But I apologize for my unchristian immature words. Im a fallible creature who makes mistakes.



I blame Muhammad insofar as those who cut off heads in the name of Allah, and declare Jihads, are doing what Muhammad did and obeying what Muhammad commanded his followers to do.

Edit: King David repented. Muhammad Did NOT!

Show verses of the Qur'an that Muhammad did order so ..

 

[Spiderman]

You miss the point a lot. I think it's deliberate.

A) Catholics don't teach the bible is literally accurate nor even that authorship is necessarily as it is traditionally held to be. You know this so stop deliberately misunderstanding.
B) There were two people you mentioned, you stated that Muhammad didn't repent and you don't know what he did or did not repent for. You don't know whether Hitler repented. You don't know whether John Paul II did either.

Okay. There is written records of David repenting. None of Muhammad repenting or saying he was wrong. Now I have clarified. Thank you for correcting me.

Show verses of the Qur'an that Muhammad did order so ..

The Koran commands Muslims to kill infidels but Muhammad has other acts of Terror that aren't in the Koran but Islamic Historians know to be true.

In fact, ISIS not only speaks for a particular religion (Islam)–but it also mimics every act of brutality and truculence perpetrated by its founder, the Prophet Mohammed...In fact, ISIS not only speaks for a particular religion (Islam)–but it also mimics every act of brutality and truculence perpetrated by its founder, the Prophet Mohammed... WHY DOES ISIS BEHEAD PEOPLE? Because Mohammed Did

 

[Servant_of_the_One1]

Matthew,
If Quran commands us to kill u. Do u think there would be christians and jews in muslim countries?
Do u think we would live in peace together in western countries?

Like jayhawker said, u are unread.

 

[Spiderman]

Show verses of the Qur'an that Muhammad did order so ..

Matthew,
If Quran commands us to kill u. Do u think there would be christians and jews in muslim countries?
Do u think we would live in peace together in western countries?

Like jayhawker said, u are unread.

Umm...the Koran and Muhammad commanded people to kill infidels. I didn't say they are commanded to kill every single one. But they did massacre many.

Umm...actually...if I were living in a country that follows Islamic law, I would be executed or in prison most likely