What is wrong with those people who get tattoos?

[McBell]

I don't need brain surgery. But if someone thought I did, I probably wouldn't have it. I do not fear death, nor do I fear brains that others believe require surgery.


Well, first of all, if a lawyer were to give me legal advice, I may not take it. Just because a person is a layer does not mean he has good legal advice to give.
And if I thought that a veterinarian had good legal advice, I would certainly take his advice.


Of course I do. If I had psychiatric advice to give someone, I think it would be wrong not to share it.



Of course I do, and so do you.




Well, I have to keep up on the literature as well. It's not right to give advice if you do not keep up on the literature.

What you describe is ratification.
Ratification is not education.
So make up your mind.

 

[McBell]

There are plenty of psychologists and psychiatrists who would disagree with what you just said.

LIst them.

 

[ADigitalArtist]

There are plenty of psychologists and psychiatrists who would disagree with what you just said.

Such as? Can you show me some actual studies which indicate mental health issues as a result of tattoo ownership? Something not opinion based?

 

[sovietchild]

Uh, I didn't vote for Trump. I don't think he should be president.
Thankfully, being a doctor isn't an elected position and its title is based on demonstration of tested knowledge and acceptance of oversight.

They gave him the access to nukes. He can kill more people then undocumented doctor. So in this case it's better to choose undocumented doctor. Don't you think so?

 

[ADigitalArtist]

They gave him the access to nukes. He can kill more people then undocumented doctor. So in this case it's better to choose undocumented doctor. Don't you think so?

One bad thing doesn't justify another bad thing. And I repeat, I would rather Trump be not president.

 

[sovietchild]

One bad thing doesn't justify another bad thing. And I repeat, I would rather Trump be not president.

I rather have Trump then Clinton. Trump can save as much as people as self educated doctor. His son is already in talks with important people about ending war in Syria.

 

[SkepticThinker]

I don't need brain surgery. But if someone thought I did, I probably wouldn't have it. I do not fear death, nor do I fear brains that others believe require surgery.

It's a hypothetical.

Let's say you need a root canal then. Do you get who has read a bunch of stuff about root canals but has never done one before and has no actual medical expertise, or do you go to a dentist?

(I don't think you need to answer, given that the answer is obvious.)

Well, first of all, if a lawyer were to give me legal advice, I may not take it. Just because a person is a layer does not mean he has good legal advice to give.
And if I thought that a veterinarian had good legal advice, I would certainly take his advice.

Come on now. We're not talking about all lawyers being legal geniuses or whatever. You're avoiding the point.

Do you bring a lawyer to court to represent you, or do you bring a veterinarian? When you need legal representation, do you start looking around for lawyers or do you start Googling plumbers?

Of course I do. If I had psychiatric advice to give someone, I think it would be wrong not to share it.

Why and how would you have any psychiatric advice to give anyone?

Of course I do, and so do you.

Speak for yourself.

Well, I have to keep up on the literature as well. It's not right to give advice if you do not keep up on the literature.

How many papers have you published in the field? On what subjects? What kinds of discussions have you had with people who work in the field?
Who are you responsible to when you give improper/inaccurate psychiatric advice or behave in an unethical manner?

 

[Sonofason]

LIst them.

no

 

[Sonofason]

Such as? Can you show me some actual studies which indicate mental health issues as a result of tattoo ownership? Something not opinion based?

All medical science is opinion based.

 

[ADigitalArtist]

I rather have Trump then Clinton. Trump can save as much as people as self educated doctor. His son is already in talks with important people about ending war in Syria.

Now who is going off subject?
I'd rather have Clinton than Trump because she actually knows how to handle foreign policy and, as a bonus, isn't a sexist or racist and doesn't keep sexists, racists and homophobes on staff.

 

[ADigitalArtist]

All medical science is opinion based.

So you've got nothing.

 

[SkepticThinker]

There are plenty of psychologists and psychiatrists who would disagree with what you just said.

Doubtful.

 

[columbus]

I rather have Trump then Clinton. Trump can save as much as people as self educated doctor. His son is already in talks with important people about ending war in Syria.

I could talk about saving you from the cancerous tumor in your brain.
But I have zero credentials. I would just be making upstuff. If I had such a serious problem, I would go to a hospital where people do have credentials.
Although I might also enjoy music by a drug addicted freak. That's different.

I have different standards for brain surgeons, world leaders, and artists.
Tom

 

[SkepticThinker]

All medical science is opinion based.

No.

Medical science is evidence based.

 

[McBell]

no

Then your bold empty claim gets dismissed as quickly as you pulled it out your backside to present.

 

[sovietchild]

I could talk about saving you from the cancerous tumor in your brain.
But I have zero credentials. I would just be making upstuff. If I had such a serious problem, I would go to a hospital where people do have credentials.
Although I might also enjoy music by a drug addicted freak. That's different.
Tom

In this case I'm not gonna ask my neighbor to fix my bike tire, because he is not certificate to do it. Dumb don't you think so?

A self educated doctor could save for more people in one day then educated one. Just like self educated photographer could out sell university professor.

 

[McBell]

In this case I'm not gonna ask my neighbor to fix my bike tire, because he is not certificate to do it. Dumb don't you think so?

A self educated doctor could save for more people in one day then educated one. Just like self educated photographer could out sell university professor.

Most revealing that you are unable to tell the difference between fixing a bike tire and brain surgery.

 

[Sonofason]

It's a hypothetical.

Let's say you need a root canal then. Do you get who has read a bunch of stuff about root canals but has never done one before and has no actual medical expertise, or do you go to a dentist?

(I don't think you need to answer, given that the answer is obvious.)

I would go to a dentist, but that doesn't mean he will do a good job. It could be that there are plumbers who could do a better job than the dentist I chose. At least with a dentist I know he's had some training in the field. . But if I knew of someone other than a dentist who indeed has performed a root canal, I certainly might go to that dentist to have a root canal.

Come on now. We're not talking about all lawyers being legal geniuses or whatever. You're avoiding the point.

I have never, and I will never need a layer. And if I was ever told I needed one, I would not use one. I do not do things that require lawyers.

Do you bring a lawyer to court to represent you, or do you bring a veterinarian? When you need legal representation, do you start looking around for lawyers or do you start Googling plumbers?

Again, I do not do things that require lawyers.

Why and how would you have any psychiatric advice to give anyone?

Why? If someone asked me for psychiatric advice, I would give it, if I had it.
How? I would simply pass along the information I had. Then it's up to them to decide if they want to take my advice.

How many papers have you published in the field? On what subjects? What kinds of discussions have you had with people who work in the field?
Who are you responsible to when you give improper/inaccurate psychiatric advice or behave in an unethical manner?

Knowledge of a subject does not require the publishing of papers.
I consider this information private.
I don't give improper or inaccurate psychiatric advice. If I don't know the answer, I don't give any advice.
I don't behave in an unethical manner.

Honestly, you know as well as me that people will choose to go to a person with a degree before they come to me, because they know that that person has had at least a few years of knowledge under their belt on the subject. Because I have not been tested for my knowledge, they cannot be sure of the extent of my knowledge. So the people that seek my advice are usually my family and friends. And if I can help them, I do.

 

[sovietchild]

Most revealing that you are unable to tell the difference between fixing a bike tire and brain surgery.

Life is a gamble. It's all about fatigue.

 

[columbus]

In this case I'm not gonna ask my neighbor to fix my bike tire, because he is not certificate to do it. Dumb don't you think so?

I will fix your bike tire. I have no credentials, but I have done it successfully.
Do you really not see the difference between brain surgeons, presidents, and bike mechanics?

Dumb, don't you think? Or did your religion teach you some dumb things?
That's what it looks like to me.
Tom