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What is wrong with those people who to pray to statues?
- Thread starter sovietchild
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Umm no. Worshipping an idol is not worshipping yourself unless that statue is literally a statue of the believer themselves I literally have no idea where you got that ridiculous idea from.
Besides otherwise every single theist on the planet, idol worshiper or not would have to labelled an SPD. Including you who believe in the Creator. Because God exists in the realm of the supernatural and as such belief in Him/Her is technically a belief in the magical. And oddness in belief is in the eye of the beholder. Many would consider your narrow approach to God "odd beliefs."
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Theweirdtophat
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That's an incorrect translation. He stated that you shall have no gods BEFORE me, meaning people could worship other gods and high beings, but they have to acknowledge him as the best god. This is true because the original Jews prayed to multiple gods before, including Yahweh.
There are many scriptures in the Christian Bible admonishing to NOT worship ANY
idol or graven image.
Why Churches encourage using idols to bow and pray to is likely due to the human
condition. Seems many want to see something to bow and pray to.
Isaiah 44:9:
9 Those who make an image, all of them are useless,
And their precious things shall not profit;
They are their own witnesses;
They neither see nor know, that they may be ashamed.
http://amazingdiscoveries.org/S-deception_end-time_paganism_Catholic_Mithraism
Catholic Church makes tradition above or equal to Scripture, but in actuality many of its traditions actually stem from pagan sun worship. Its teachings, beliefs and practices come from Mithraism—a form of paganism that existed in Babylonian times.
Pleeease I'm NOT Catholic bashing at all.
I just research and present information for the discernment of the reader.
That said I doubt it's any kind of secret that the early Catholic Church combined
paganism with Catholic tradition and dogma to gain converts.
Volumes of information on the web for those interested.
idol or graven image.
Why Churches encourage using idols to bow and pray to is likely due to the human
condition. Seems many want to see something to bow and pray to.
Isaiah 44:9:
9 Those who make an image, all of them are useless,
And their precious things shall not profit;
They are their own witnesses;
They neither see nor know, that they may be ashamed.
http://amazingdiscoveries.org/S-deception_end-time_paganism_Catholic_Mithraism
Catholic Church makes tradition above or equal to Scripture, but in actuality many of its traditions actually stem from pagan sun worship. Its teachings, beliefs and practices come from Mithraism—a form of paganism that existed in Babylonian times.
Pleeease I'm NOT Catholic bashing at all.
I just research and present information for the discernment of the reader.
That said I doubt it's any kind of secret that the early Catholic Church combined
paganism with Catholic tradition and dogma to gain converts.
Volumes of information on the web for those interested.
Etritonakin
Well-Known Member
It can be twisted to mean that -but that is clearly not the case from what is written in scripture....
Exo_20:3 Thou shalt have no other gods before me.
Exo_23:13 And in all things that I have said unto you be circumspect: and make no mention of the name of other gods, neither let it be heard out of thy mouth.
Jdg_10:13 Yet ye have forsaken me, and served other gods: wherefore I will deliver you no more.
Jer_25:6 And go not after other gods to serve them, and to worship them, and provoke me not to anger with the works of your hands; and I will do you no hurt.
sovietchild
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Don't you think that idol worshiping is a mental disorder? If those people who think that images have some kind of a power then it should be recognized as a mental disorder.
If people are worshiping an image of themselves then they are worshiping themselves; they are their own gods. And that is a disorder called NPD (Narcissistic Personality Disorder).
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Images do have power. Otherwise we wouldn't be able to interpret artwork. Sculptures, paintings, novels all have the power to evoke human emotions. They have the power to speak to people in a language that transcends language barriers. They have the power to move people of all sorts of different backgrounds, beliefs and opinions. They can unite us, demonize people, turn us against ourselves and even cause self reflection.
You want to label artistic sensibilities or the human cognitive process as a mental disorder? Are you mentally disordered bro? All religious people could be classified as mentally disordered by your vague overgeneralized definition.
Except they're not. I have yet to see a living person with 4, 6 or 8 arms and legs. I have yet to see a living human animal (non human) hybrid, I have yet to see a living person look like the Holy Mother Mary even! Do you even know what the Idols look like? You should if you want to rail against them! Otherwise you come across as an ill informed ignorant person.
And not to be rude, but are you qualified to make such diagnoses? I mean are you a Doctor or Mental Health professional? You seem to be throwing mental disorders around willy nilly.
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Kelly of the Phoenix
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So pretty much the majority of major characters in the bible are SPD, then?
What do statues have to do with those disorders? I would like something from the APA or something, thanks.
Jesus was said to be coming back and still is quite dead. Alternatively, if I have an AI-controlled robot, it could rebuild itself if able to do so.
GoodbyeDave
Well-Known Member
Those are in the OT: the Jewish Bible. If you are going to accept the OT commandments, I trust you accept them all and don't "cherry-pick". No more bacon for you!
sovietchild
Well-Known Member
What is wrong with those people who look for the black dots on the white paper? They just don't like the paper. They will reject it no matter what. They will always find a fault in it. They are nothing but critics who wants you to be stupid and worthless. What is wrong with those people who criticize? Maybe they are seeking attention. What is wrong with those people who seek attention? Maybe they want you to worship them just like they worship themselves.
“To avoid criticism say nothing, do nothing, be nothing.”
― Aristotle
“To avoid criticism say nothing, do nothing, be nothing.”
― Aristotle
Mirror time.
Was the well-being of the people who died in the floods, landslides and earthquakes in Nepal and India uppermost in God's mind? Or didn't he care and let them die because they worship idols and false gods?
This is a false presumption that everyone believes in your god and scriptures and takes them literally or even seriously. At least half of the world's poulation doesn't.
I can quote too! Observe.
At no point during your rambling incoherent response were you ever close to anything that could be remotely considered a rational thought. Everyone in the room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points and may God have mercy on your soul. - Principal from Billy Madison.
Etritonakin
Well-Known Member
I did not presume or assume that.
Etritonakin
Well-Known Member
Their overall well-being -yes. God is ultimately responsible for every death -and everyone who has died will be resurrected.
This quote from a song has the general idea....
"The greatest of teachers won’t hesitate to leave you there by yourself chained to fate"
God has been consistently rejected when working directly with humanity -but experience is the proof necessary. This experience -for the most part without him -will prepare us to accept him.
You forgot to add "It's my belief that" to your first and third paragraphs.
Etritonakin
Well-Known Member
No -I did not. I understand people believe differently.
It should be apparent that I believe what I wrote. There is no need to state that it is a belief of mine.
I also know those things to be true. You do not have to believe similarly.
Do you pray? If yes, then whom you pray to?
If not, then you should not raise this question or explain first why you do not.
sovietchild
Well-Known Member
1. Definition of pray - "expression of thanks to a deity". What is wrong with those people who express thanks to an image?
2. There is gods, but God.