What is your Belief? A statistic for RF

[Secret Chief]

Or are the Baha'is just making things up?

Surely not.
To avoid confusion the poll option should have made it explicit ie "I believe in a non-revealed religion. It therefore has absolutely nothing to do with messengers or a creator god with an upper case G." Then there couldn't be the usual tedium of bahais "explaining" the errors in other people's religions.

 

[Secret Chief]

People will need to embrace the requied change for this age, and they slowly but surely will, either willingly or unwillingly.

So if people ignore these 1000s of warnings you indicated, what will specifically be done (and by who) to make them change if they are not changing willingly?

 

[Aupmanyav]

Surely not.

Surely, they did. Bahaiis are making up things. Bahaollah never said that Krishna and Buddha are manifestations of Allah. That was made up by Abbas, Shoghi and the Bahai House of Justice. They forgot to make Nanak and Mahavira, or Laozi and Confucius into manifestations of Allah.

 

[Secret Chief]

Surely, they did. Bahaiis are making up things. Bahaollah never said that Krishna and Buddha are manifestations of Allah. That was made up by Abbas, Shoghi and the Bahai House of Justice. They forgot to make Nanak and Mahavira, or Laozi and Confucius into manifestations of Allah.

Laozi would have just laughed at them!

 

[Vinayaka]

Surely, they did. Bahaiis are making up things. Bahaollah never said that Krishna and Buddha are manifestations of Allah. That was made up by Abbas, Shoghi and the Bahai House of Justice. They forgot to make Nanak and Mahavira, or Laozi and Confucius into manifestations of Allah.

Sikhs, Jains, Taoists, and Confucionists aren't easy targets for conversion?

 

[TransmutingSoul]

So if people ignore these 1000s of warnings you indicated, what will specifically be done (and by who) to make them change if they are not changing willingly?

Cause and Effect.

Regards Tony

 

[Secret Chief]

Cause and Effect.

Regards Tony

Care to expand beyond that cryptic response?

 

[TransmutingSoul]

Surely, they did. Bahaiis are making up things. Bahaollah never said that Krishna and Buddha are manifestations of Allah. That was made up by Abbas, Shoghi and the Bahai House of Justice. They forgot to make Nanak and Mahavira, or Laozi and Confucius into manifestations of Allah.

Sikhs, Jains, Taoists, and Confucionists aren't easy targets for conversion?

First humanity must embrace unity and the oneness of God, then these converstaion can be had, the probable truths found and all can benefit from them.

At the moment, most do not want these conversations.

Until then? Carry on and let what will be, be.

Regards Tony

 

[SalixIncendium]

Care to expand beyond that cryptic respomse?

Apparently not.

 

[Vinayaka]

Apparently not.

The Oneness that is overdue for Humanity hasn't quite taken hold. But soon the Glory of He who has the resplendent Face of Sunshine will make it as clear as the midday Sun, hiding behind the clouds of Humanity's ills.

 

[CG Didymus]

First humanity must embrace unity and the oneness of God, then these converstaion can be had, the probable truths found and all can benefit from them.

At the moment, most do not want these conversations.

Until then? Carry on and let what will be, be.

Regards Tony

And the Born-Again Christians and other religious groups that seek converts have their version of that.

 

[Vinayaka]

And the Born-Again Christians and other religious groups that seek converts have their version of that.

Unity my way isn't unity at all.

 

[Aupmanyav]

First humanity must embrace unity and the oneness of God, then these converstaion can be had, the probable truths found and all can benefit from them.

Why One God? Why Bahaollah as the latest messenger? What are your reasons for that?
Why hang on beliefs before the truth has been found?
And beliefs so preposterous as appearance of a 'heavenly maiden' or the 'fulfillment of prophecies'?
Few people even in 19th Century around the world would believe that. Superstitious Shia Iranians were a class apart.

 

[PearlSeeker]

What else is there in the universe?

There are many things - life, you, me, experience, relationships, society, culture etc. etc.

 

[☆Dreamwind☆]

I've honestly never heard the terms Revealed and Unrevealed Paths until I came here.

 

[Aupmanyav]

There are many things - life, you, me, experience, relationships, society, culture etc. etc.

All that is just a temporary perturbation of the field, an illusion, 'maya'.

 

[TransmutingSoul]

And the Born-Again Christians and other religious groups that seek converts have their version of that.

Well CG, Until then? Carry on and let what will be, be.

So much to offer, but alas, the time is not yet ready.

I can not imagine the pain that the Messengers faced knowing that it would be hundreds of years of unnecessary suffering through tyranny and wars before humanity could embrace such a simple concept as the oneness of humanity.

Regards Tony

 

[TransmutingSoul]

I've honestly never heard the terms Revealed and Unrevealed Paths until I came here.

It is just another obstacle to the oneness of humanity.

Regards Tony

 

[TransmutingSoul]

Care to expand beyond that cryptic response?

Apparently not.

God gives the cause, every God given Revelation is a 'New Creation'. The old direction of humanity under the previous Revelations are abrogated. The effect is our response to that cause. Our choices will create the change, we will bring all that happens upon our own selves.

We are creating the situation the world now faces, the tyranny, the unlawfulness, the oppression and war and all the ungodliness. This oppression and destruction will reach such heights as never before witnessed, change will be desired by anyone left from the ruins of this wayward age.

I am part of this age by the way, my time almost done. We have been adequately warned that bad choices = bad results.

Cause and effect, all part of this wonderful creation.

Regards Tony

 

[Vinayaka]

I've honestly never heard the terms Revealed and Unrevealed Paths until I came here.

Me too. My take now is that it's perpetrated by one group to indicate how they are better than the other one. It is much much better to be of a revealed religion than a non-revealed religion. (s) I'm learning from your insights, BTW.