White House commends Jason Collins on coming out
This comment basically overall explains my opinion of it:
This comment basically overall explains my opinion of it:
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What is your opinion on this?
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dyanaprajna2011
Dharmapala
The government shouldn't get involved with either. It shouldn't have congratulated someone for coming out, because it shouldn't be that big a deal. And Tebow ruined his own career by being a crappy quarterback. As far as his outspokenness of being a Christian, he has every right to do that, just like anyone else, but he took it to the point of extreme annoyance. The public at large, and especially football fans, got tired of it.
tumbleweed41
Resident Liberal Hippie
Did Tebow break boundaries by announcing his belief?
Rakhel
Well-Known Member
Some thought so. Football is not about religion, it is about football. OR so the talk went
tumbleweed41
Resident Liberal Hippie
Football actually has a long history of religious affiliation.
Although not as common now, prayers were often performed pre-game. Athletes still thank God for their wins.
There has never been an openly gay player though.
I always wondered if any thanked God for their losses. Losing does the soul a ton of good.
Titanic
Well-Known Member
Actually there has been openly gay players before.
tumbleweed41
Resident Liberal Hippie
In the NFL?
Titanic
Well-Known Member
Well I mean after they have retired from the NFL. A few players have said they were gay. I know its not the same.
The White House congratulating someone just because they came out as a homosexual is just very silly, when has the White House called any of these people for being openly gay?
IMDb: Openly Gay Actors - a list by MarcusHoover
IMDb: Openly Gay Actors - a list by MarcusHoover
Were they supposed to?
What I think is silly is the assumption that if the White House calls one person out of X disadvantaged group, that means they should have called them all.
I'm more saying - they weren't even supposed to call the gay basketball player. Why make such a big deal of something this small and unimportant?
Isn't that a value judgement, whether this was small and unimportant?
You say it is. Some other people think it isn't.
Me Myself
Back to my username
I would think they congratulate him for coming out, not for being homosexual.
Its not the same.
I don't think Tebow broke any boundaries by announcing his belief, but that he did, to some people, come across as being "holier than thou". Even some Christian friends of mine were a bit put off by him.
What it really means to not care if someone is gay, not to reward them just for being different
Rakhel
Well-Known Member
Didn't Tebow play in Colorado before moving to NY?
Me Myself
Back to my username
THey arenot rewarding him for being gay but for having the courage to step out of the closet.
It`s not the same.
Stepping out of the closet (which implies he was on the closet for a time and thus probably fearful about who he was and what that implyed) is a delicate moment, where you expect things to change, in part for good and in part for bad.
Reinforcing this people is good because you are telling them it`s okay, there are people with them that will stand for them and their rights. The people that will go against them have a lot of public attention already anyways.
It`s about supporting a minority that needs support given the bashing that society already spills towards them.
Pagan_Patriot
Active Member
It must be awkward in the locker room and showers now.