What religion is the one true religion?

[InvestigateTruth]

I would not be so sure about that. There are many false prophets.

There are many false prophets and false Messiahs, and False Mahdis. Non of them had a Book, claiming to be from God.

 

[Trailblazer]

There are many false prophets and false Messiahs, and False Mahdis. Non of them had a Book, claiming to be from God.

None of them? What about the Book of Mormon?

It claims to be the word of God—every sentence, every verse, every page. ... Joseph Smith declared that an angel of God directed him to gold plates, which contained the writings of prophets in ancient America, and that he translated those plates by divine powers.

October 2011 The Book of Mormon—a Book from God

 

[Polymath257]

The purpose of rationalisation and proofs is to trigger the uncovering of the natural state of man, which is belief in one God.

Yes,
there are numerous miracles in the Qur'an.

For example,

Neither are miracles. The first is not an unreasonable conjecture given the ideas of the time it was written (with knowledge that the atmosphere did not extend to the moon), and the second is wrong in many ways (we wouldn't feel tectonic motion even if there were no mountains and the mountains don't 'hold down' the plates).

Is this the best you can offer?

 

[Shakeel]

Neither are miracles. The first is not an unreasonable conjecture given the ideas of the time it was written (with knowledge that the atmosphere did not extend to the moon), and the second is wrong in many ways (we wouldn't feel tectonic motion even if there were no mountains and the mountains don't 'hold down' the plates).

Is this the best you can offer?

Typically people like to claims it's all a coincidence, but when the Qur'an is filled with them, it becomes an absurd claim.

You're disagreeing with the explanation, not the Qur'an. Which is another typical reaction - trying to tear down a simple true statement due to minor details someone said regarding it which you don't believe are correct.

I'm not here to offer you "my best". It's the Qur'an. I'm answering the question you asked. This only demonstrates that proofs alone don't make people believe.

 

[Polymath257]

Typically people like to claims it's all a coincidence, but when the Qur'an is filled with them, it becomes an absurd claim.

You're disagreeing with the explanation, not the Qur'an. Which is another typical reaction - trying to tear down a simple true statement due to minor details someone said regarding it which you don't believe are correct.

No, but I'm not here to offer you "my best". It's the Qur'an. I'm answering the question you asked. It only demonstrates that proofs don't make people believe.

What true statement?

"And we placed within the Earth firmly set mountains, lest it should shift with them". The mountains *do* shift with the continents. So it is wrong on more than one level. Hardly miraculous. The explanation only makes it worse.

"And We made the sky a protected ceiling, but they, from its signs, are turning away." Again, hardly miraculous.

Again, I prefer a *much* higher level to label something a 'proof'. These don't even come close.

 

[Windwalker]

I understand it to be a metaphor. And, again, it isn't just that I don't want to climb a mountain. It is that the mountain (closeness with the divine) doesn't seem to be there at all.

The problem with this is that there are those who disagree. Myself, I live my life as close as I can with the Divine. It's a practice of being present in the moment. That certainly is there, anytime I wish to be connected with that. Experientially speaking, it is in fact there. Everyday, actually. That someone doesn't experience that is understandable. Saying it's not real, is a statement of faith only, that doesn't match what people report, or my own personal experience.

 

[Aupmanyav]

It is real for you and unreal for others.

 

[InvestigateTruth]

None

None of them? What about the Book of Mormon?

It claims to be the word of God—every sentence, every verse, every page. ... Joseph Smith declared that an angel of God directed him to gold plates, which contained the writings of prophets in ancient America, and that he translated those plates by divine powers.

October 2011 The Book of Mormon—a Book from God

I know Joseph claimed an angel guided him to find it.
I don't think the book itself claims to be from God. If you know a verse in it, quote it. He never claimed he has a new revelation from God, with new teachings, commandments etc.

 

[rational experiences]

Men human in science teaching told you. Human men taught human men. As a man. Who gains an experience of man's science causes. Direct.

When the mountain collapsed by sun technology causes UFO it disintegrated its face or it melted its face.

The nature garden wood began to combust his life evicted.

Human aware advising scientific causes.

So men heard the angels speaking men's sciences as machine encoded by designer human men is a detail. Voice transmitting the scientists own cause.

Always said the message was for man about men.

Science agreement.

Pressurized earth owned cold gold.

Philosophers science secret golds production a new Alchemy.

Science proves it involves evil thesis with earth's pressure plated. Gold in a SEAM.

Cold.

To get hold of a product is by production so pressure and melt to cool product is involved.

No man is God one the earth warning.

Was always the same never mess with earth's atmospheric pressures. Never mess with earth plated pressures. Yet you did. Seams of cold melt no longer a melt.

Metals.

Yet here you are everyday messing with them in experiments

Father said water inside of stones seal pressured was created in space.

One of your many scientific deceits. Claiming you knew God.

Pretty basic human advice scientists were liars. Invention and greed make evil choices against life survival on earth.

 

[The Kilted Heathen]

There isn't a same goal though.

But of course there is. It simply means different things to different folks, and looks different. But the goal of nearness to the divine is the goal of every single religion on Earth. For some that's going to church, others having a beer on the porch in a thunderstorm.

That would be using the word neighbour in strange manner.

No, that's using neighbor in a "biblical" sense. "Any person in need of one's help or kindness."

I have said nothing about your actions,

Everyone gets one: Your whole "advising people towards hell" bit.

I don't even know what you believe in - how could I misrepresent it?

Good thing I told you this, regarding Hel and "hell".

I don't remember claiming to act peacefully,

Short memory. "It doesn't matter what they believe. You still have to treat them well."

 

[Polymath257]

The problem with this is that there are those who disagree. Myself, I live my life as close as I can with the Divine. It's a practice of being present in the moment. That certainly is there, anytime I wish to be connected with that. Experientially speaking, it is in fact there. Everyday, actually. That someone doesn't experience that is understandable. Saying it's not real, is a statement of faith only, that doesn't match what people report, or my own personal experience.

I also like to be 'present in the moment' and to experience the feeling of 'connectedness'.

What does that have to do with the divine?

 

[Windwalker]

I also like to be 'present in the moment' and to experience the feeling of 'connectedness'.

What does that have to do with the divine?

When you experience that connectedness of all things, could you describe that as a both an imminent and transcendent Beauty? To me, that transcendent Beauty, that ineffable, is the Divine. "In him we live and move and have our being", is a great way to describe that nature of Reality.

It's not just something outside of ourselves, but the very essence of who we are and what the world is. It's not just another object, but the essence of everything that is.

 

[Ashurbanipal]

What religion is the one true religion?

Debate start now!!

Imperial Roman, Ancient Egyptian, Hittite, Indian, Hellenic, Hellenistic, Mesoamerican, Sumero-Akkadian religions are some examples.

 

[savagewind]

None it seems to me, given the spectrum of beliefs, the timescales involved, the locations of their origins, and their reliance on past beliefs, besides all the conflicts such have caused.


And you were doing so well until 4.

Putting my boot in here. The easiest, the hardest, the classic, or the most enjoyable - and perhaps most rewarding, given the necessities so often. Certainly many religions seem to be such.

This might be fine if what they produced didn't then pass into the future to then cause even more conflict. Which is what tends to happen rather than being welcomed and enlightening us all. So why wasn't any original message good enough, even if later explanations were required?

Much like recreational drug use might come from seeking something?

So, you are a no God person which means that to trust in God is as good as trusting in air. I know that my God does not stand by to direct me in everything, but there are occasions in which I have no idea. That is when I trust God more than I trust myself. Not always. Goodness no!

 

[Mock Turtle]

So, you are a no God person which means that to trust in God is as good as trusting in air. I know that my God does not stand by to direct me in everything, but there are occasions in which I have no idea. That is when I trust God more than I trust myself. Not always. Goodness no!

I have no other option than to trust myself. It usually works though - and often works better than trusting others.

 

[nPeace]

What religion is the one true religion?

Debate start now!!

According to the Bible, there always was only one true way of worship - Zechariah 8:23, and I not aware of anywhere in the Bible saying that has changed - John 4:24 ; Romans 10:2 ;1 Corinthians 10:20, 21 ; Ephesians 4:4-6

 

[MonkeyFire]

all religions are right, as long as they share or none of them are right.

 

[lukethethird]

Okay. Thanks.

It was nothing really, in fact it was my pleasure.

ps, my religion sounds boring next to yours no matter how I spell it.

 

[Starlight]

It's the moral truth of virtues. And it's the primitive life principle that springs from foundational eternal reality.

There's no God at the helm. And nature don't care about life. We evolved through natural intelligence.

Nature is a shell, a cocoon, and we must grow beyond it into the foundational reality from which we were born.

The goal of life is to advance and grow beyond our primitive roots.

Virtues are the highest attainment. And love the greatest power of virtues. From virtues we must gain wisdom. Knowledge is secondary but crucial to life. Love, charity, knowledge, humility and wisdom are the greatest virtues. Courage is the virtue that makes all other virtues go.

To be equals at heart even when there is intellectual disparity. Life always seeks equality whether your higher or lower in position. Life wants to build up and encourage in right ways. Life is the ultimate giver that seeks deserve.

This is the one true religion. And many mysteries ahead.

I agree with you that the highest attainment is virtues. And that we gain wisdom from virtues. And that love, charity, knowledge, humility and wisdom are the greatest virtues. But i believe God exist.

 

[Starlight]

The one true religion is atheism. I've been told children are born atheists, so there.

A baby has not learned a language. And a baby is not able to think and use reason like older children does. So it is strange of you to say a baby is born atheist.

The idea of God was created by logic and by questioning the world we live in. I remember when i was a little child, i thought "where did this world come from" "there has to be someone who has created this world". " why do i live"

Almost all humans ask those questions. Many children ask those questions very early. And many children come to the conclusion that God is the creator of this world. And that our life has a purpose