Viker
Your beloved eccentric Auntie Cristal
They're beyond any mortal concept of power.So your gods aren't all-powerful? Why would you worship something deficient?
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They're beyond any mortal concept of power.So your gods aren't all-powerful? Why would you worship something deficient?
The Demiurge, maybe?god is a fraud. every time someone seems to want to prove his power there is nothing to show.
maybe he just sits and laughs as we all suffer.
Why worship something you cannot possibly know exists?So your gods aren't all-powerful? Why would you worship something deficient?
And how are you going about "earning" it? By fighting with your neighbors? Slandering them and offending them? Sowing hate, discourse, and war?Paradise. (in the next life - in this life I want to earn it)
Right, but they're not all powerful. Sure, good for a few things, but not everything. So what's the use of having a tree if it can't do everything?They provide an extra source of oxygen
are used to make paper
and used to build housing and other things.
we kind of need them?
Sure. Fire away. Demonstrate for me how this would work.
I don't see how you're confused about the tree thing. we kinda need themAnd how are you going about "earning" it? By fighting with your neighbors? Slandering them and offending them? Sowing hate, discourse, and war?
Right, but they're not all powerful. Sure, good for a few things, but not everything. So what's the use of having a tree if it can't do everything?
Since metaphors seem to be sailing high over heads, that's about how silly it sounds to put the bar so high for worship of a god or gods in that they must be all-powerful to be worshiped. Especially when put there by folk who don't really believe in said gods.
possiblyThe Demiurge, maybe?
very fairWhy worship something you cannot possibly know exists?
I'm not. Again: Since metaphors seem to be sailing high over heads, that's about how silly it sounds to put the bar so high for worship of a god or gods in that they must be all-powerful to be worshiped.I don't see how you're confused about the tree thing. we kinda need them
I said a criterion for a one true religion/god has yet to be established. So far all I see are circular reasoning, bias, personal mantra and the like.Is it that you dont even follow logic and reason as a criterion since you said "there is no criterion"? You cant just have superficial criterions while claiming there are no criterions.
In my mind, reason and logic is the most important criterion and that's the probably the only so called "criterion" that's valid for this kind of topic. Its not to demonstrate how anything would work, it is to actually have a criterion and make reason.
Unless conversations are ll just for the sake having them. Do you understand?
What religion is the one true religion?
Debate start now!!
as I saidI'm not. Again: Since metaphors seem to be sailing high over heads, that's about how silly it sounds to put the bar so high for worship of a god or gods in that they must be all-powerful to be worshiped.
What is Xian?
Those who worship God the right way:What religion is the one true religion?
Debate start now!!
I said a criterion for a one true religion/god has yet to be established. So far all I see are circular reasoning, bias, personal mantra and the like.
Where is that criterion? Where is there a connection to a one true religion/god that can not be refuted?
god is a fraud. every time someone seems to want to prove his power there is nothing to show.
maybe he just sits and laughs as we all suffer.
I'm very interested and still waiting.So basically you are not interested in any criterions or anything of the sort. At least that's what it seems like Viker.
In fact, do you have any other criterion?
I understand it to be a metaphor. And, again, it isn't just that I don't want to climb a mountain. It is that the mountain (closeness with the divine) doesn't seem to be there at all.
Religion (the mountain) most certainly exists. This cannot be rationally denied, regardless of what you believe or don't believe of the goal. That said, your view that closeness with the divine doesn't exist or doesn't seem to be there largely depends on your view of what the Divine is, juxtaposed with what the people worshiping it view it as.
I'm very interested and still waiting.
I don't have or require a criterion for me. I'm not one who believes they have the one true religion.