what religion is this?help please.

[draqon_of_white_seas]

Someone help me please, I believe in these 7 principles, and would like to know which religion if any supports all or most of these principles? Is there such a religion?

1. Life is not a suffering

2. The purpose of life is to advance the soul to a new level,

3. There is no God that directs our lifes, we direct it ourselves

4. There is a process of reincarnation, where all wisdom is lost, only soul remains

5. The choices we make.choose, define our soul

6. There is no heaven and there is no hell

7. The God is within us all (for each one to a different extent), God is a function that defines the rules of the universe

Now, I know this is not Buddhism (theyve believe life is a suffering), nor is it Hinduism (theyve got a God), nor is it Christianity, nor is it Satanism, nor is it Islam...

I do feel closely tied to buddhism, maybe I dont understand what they mean by the suffering...

Anyways, any suggestions? :help::sarcastic

 

[michel]

Hi draqon_of_white_seas,

As I notice that this is your first visit here, I thought I would take the opportunity to welcome you to Religious Forums;



I hope that you would feel able to introduce yourself to the other members of the forum, by posting on:- Are you new to ReligiousForums.com?



Please feel free to ask questions, if you have any. You might like to check out our article with links for our newer members; from there, there is also a link to the forum rules which you ought to look at.

Now, as to the question you ask, there is no real answer. Having said that, I have to add that no one can lead you to a religion; you will have to make the Journey on your own.
I would also suggest that drawing up a list of requirements in your choice is going to make life a tad difficult.


If you are interested, there are various quizzes which you can take, which will point out which way your ideas are pointing, theologically. One Such is: - http://www.beliefnet.com/story/76/story_7665_1.html

I honestly suggest that you try a few of these, come back to the foru, and have a good read. One day, something will just 'click' in your mind (hopefully).

Don't expect a quick answer either.........I am 56, and I have come to the conclusion that there is no one religion that fits my 'needs'. I wish you better luck.

 

[draqon_of_white_seas]

I took that quiz, apparently, Mahayana Buddhism...is my belief...hmmm...lets investigate...thanks Michel.

 

[Scarlett Wampus]

DragonOWS sounds quite like Taoism to me, but then I'm guessing those beliefs could sound quite like a lot of things since they're not that specific.

Michel that quiz! It got me all percentiled wrong. :areyoucra

 

[draqon_of_white_seas]

Upon reviewing Mahayana Buddhism, I have come to the conclusion that it is not the religion I wish to follow, simply because I do not believe life is a suffering. But...now that you mentioned it...taoism sounds very enticing, and now I firmly agree that my philosophy of life is in essence the same as that of taoism. Thank you ScarlettW.

 

[michel]

Upon reviewing Mahayana Buddhism, I have come to the conclusion that it is not the religion I wish to follow, simply because I do not believe life is a suffering. But...now that you mentioned it...taoism sounds very enticing, and now I firmly agree that my philosophy of life is in essence the same as that of taoism. Thank you ScarlettW.

There is nothing wrong with Taoism; I enjoy many of the beliefs and philosophies.

 

[Engyo]

Upon reviewing Mahayana Buddhism, I have come to the conclusion that it is not the religion I wish to follow, simply because I do not believe life is a suffering. But...now that you mentioned it...taoism sounds very enticing, and now I firmly agree that my philosophy of life is in essence the same as that of taoism. Thank you ScarlettW.

Scarlett -

One thing to take into account is that the word "dukkha" of the Buddhist Four Noble Truths is translated into english as suffering, but the english word "suffering" is certainly not the only possible meaning of "dukkha". Dukkha can mean unsatisfactoriness; it can mean many more things.

The whole meaning is simply that even if your life is perfect, just as it is, right now, it is going to change. Someone you love might become ill, injured, or die. You yourself may become ill. Another person may attack you or someone you love, whether physically or in other ways. Something that happens in the world may upset you or a loved one (think tsunami, or hurricane, or earthquake). These are all examples of dukkha.

So are feelings of outrage over what this or that government chooses to do, or what this or that corporation chooses to do, or what this or that religious organization/figure chooses to do.

What Buddhism intends to do is alleviate the cause of unsatisfactoriness, which is only our attachments; whether to ego, or to outcomes, or to physical safety and wellbeing. If we are no longer attached to these, then when they occur they do not disrupt our lives. Understanding this, *becoming* this, undisrupted, open, aware and awake, is the goal of Buddhism.

 

[Master Vigil]

Upon reviewing Mahayana Buddhism, I have come to the conclusion that it is not the religion I wish to follow, simply because I do not believe life is a suffering. But...now that you mentioned it...taoism sounds very enticing, and now I firmly agree that my philosophy of life is in essence the same as that of taoism. Thank you ScarlettW.

Let's see how taoism fits in response to your first post...

1. Life is not a suffering

A Taoist also believes it isn't positive either. But neutral.

2. The purpose of life is to advance the soul to a new level,

There is no "advancement" in Taoism. But with more study, you may find that your concept may only differ as a matter of semantics.

3. There is no God that directs our lifes, we direct it ourselves

The Tao certainly directs our lives, and the way of knowing Tao is to let it direct our lives. You may have a problem with this.

4. There is a process of reincarnation, where all wisdom is lost, only soul remains

This would fit nicely.

5. The choices we make.choose, define our soul

With more study of "chi" and "p'u" you may find this to correlate with Taoist thought, but in the reference to a westernized concept of a"soul", most Taoists don't believe in one.

6. There is no heaven and there is no hell

This fits wonderfully.

7. The God is within us all (for each one to a different extent), God is a function that defines the rules of the universe

And this fits as well.

 

[Scarlett Wampus]

The Tao certainly directs our lives, and the way of knowing Tao is to let it direct our lives. You may have a problem with this.

I think this is possibly the most confusing aspect of Taoism, so simple its difficult! Instead of building up a conceptual understanding of Tao and what we should do the Tao Te Ching says drop it. Drop what? That. That? And that.

MV do you ever suspect its some kind of joke?

 

[Master Vigil]

I think this is possibly the most confusing aspect of Taoism, so simple its difficult! Instead of building up a conceptual understanding of Tao and what we should do the Tao Te Ching says drop it. Drop what? That. That? And that.

MV do you ever suspect its some kind of joke?

What part of life isn't a joke?

I once attended a Ryatsu festival at my local zen temple. And before the ceremony, the monks were sitting around seemingly arguing over "Nothing mind." There arguments were so illogical that they were rediculously silly. From the western mind set, it seemed like they were joking. But they were completely serious.

Just like a zen koan, the Tao is right there. Beyond our understanding, but it is also in here, inside my mind. Why can I now understand what is inside my mind? I don't know what "mind" is.

 

[mormonman]

Someone help me please, I believe in these 7 principles, and would like to know which religion if any supports all or most of these principles? Is there such a religion?

1. Life is not a suffering

2. The purpose of life is to advance the soul to a new level,

3. There is no God that directs our lifes, we direct it ourselves

4. There is a process of reincarnation, where all wisdom is lost, only soul remains

5. The choices we make.choose, define our soul

6. There is no heaven and there is no hell

7. The God is within us all (for each one to a different extent), God is a function that defines the rules of the universe

Now, I know this is not Buddhism (theyve believe life is a suffering), nor is it Hinduism (theyve got a God), nor is it Christianity, nor is it Satanism, nor is it Islam...

I do feel closely tied to buddhism, maybe I dont understand what they mean by the suffering...

Anyways, any suggestions? :help::sarcastic

Can't help you there. I think the only ones that sort of match are #2 and #3. #2 because we believe that if we live the commandments and do all the things that we need to we can become like our Father in Heaven, in other words, become a God. #3 because we have free will. Well, you only need a seed of faith to believe. Try www.lds.org. :jiggy:

 

[draqon_of_white_seas]

Can't help you there. I think the only ones that sort of match are #2 and #3. ... Try www.lds.org. .....

lol....you are telling me here that out of 7 principles only 2 "sort of" match to the religion you believe in, isnt it obvious that your religion is definitely not something I believe in? Thanx anyways. On the other side Taoism is the closest of them all...Knockout...I shall "“Use no way as way and have no limitation as limitation”, just like Bruce Lee, he believed in taoisim didnt he?...:areyoucra...one thing for sure, he believed in martial arts as a way of life...and died...