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What religion would you convert to if you were forced to convert to a religion?

MikeF

MikeF

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Erebus said:
Christian deism perhaps? I think some branches of Hinduism believe in a creator God that doesn't intervene in the world. I'm not very knowledgeable about Hinduism though so other members might be able to correct me on that.

You'd certainly be welcome among Unitarian Universalists. That would probably be my own first choice if I were made to convert to another religion.
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Christian deism seems a bit of an oxymoron though in this context. If some entity started the universe going and left it to it's own devices, it would seem to invalidate any claims Jesus may have made. My assumption here is that Christianity requires a Jesus with valid claims, but perhaps I'm wrong.

I am wholly unfamiliar with Hinduism, but I have gotten the impression from others that the term is more of a cultural umbrella term for a whole variety of schools of thought. In this regards, it seems similar to the term Philosophy in the Western cultural tradition. I have been told that within Hinduism there is even an atheistic school of thought. Again, I'm sure I'm way off base here and experts here will set me straight.

I certainly agree that Unitarian Universalist would be a safe haven for everyone to switch to, if forced, and maintain and preserve whatever belief they had been forced to leave. It simply means that you have to be willing to give space to beliefs you don't share during communal worship. Of course, having been forced, it seems an easy concession to make.
 
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Bthoth

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SalixIncendium said:
Possibly, but that wasn't the question in the OP, was it?
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Religion is for helping a person.

I found this: Romantic religion not only redefines religiosity such that the experience of God can take place outside the clerical, dogmatic, and institutional boundaries of recognized major world religions (in Romantic religion it occurs within aesthetics and the inner life of feeling) but it can also be........

I have evolved beyond what many expect.
 
Erebus

Erebus

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MikeF said:
Christian deism seems a bit of an oxymoron though in this context. If some entity started the universe going and left it to it's own devices, it would seem to invalidate any claims Jesus may have made. My assumption here is that Christianity requires Jesus with valid claims, but perhaps I'm wrong.

I am wholly unfamiliar with Hinduism, but I have gotten the impression from others that the term is more of a cultural umbrella term for a whole variety of schools of thought. In this regards, it seems similar to the term Philosophy in the Western cultural tradition. I have been told that within Hinduism there is even an atheistic school of thought. Again, I'm sure I'm way off base here and experts here will set me straight.

I certainly agree that Unitarian Universalist would be a safe haven for everyone to switch to, if forced, and maintain and preserve whatever belief they had been forced to leave. It simply means that you have to be willing to give space to beliefs you don't share during communal worship. Of course, having been forced, it seems an easy concession to make.
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I'm by no means an expert but my understanding of Christian deism is that believers usually treat Jesus as a worthy teacher rather than as God's way of interacting with the world. I imagine (but can't claim with any certainty) that they would focus more on his moral teachings rather than his claims about God. It definitely doesn't conform to the majority Christian view as far as I can tell though and I'm sure there are plenty of Christians who would agree with your assessment that it's an oxymoron.

I do remember there being one poster on RF who was both a Hindu and a strong atheist. I can't remember who it was though unfortunately.

Unitarian Universalism definitely strikes me as one of the most accepting religions. If I weren't so asocial, I may well have looked for a nearby congregation.
 
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Little Dragon

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Erebus said:
Unitarian Universalism definitely strikes me as one of the most accepting religions. If I weren't so asocial, I may well have looked for a nearby congregation
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There is a Unitarian church near me actually. I've sometimes even flirted with the notion of going inside. Maybe one day, when it's raining and I've not got much else on. Take a little look around. See what's it all about.
 
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Sargonski

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Little Dragon said:
Only before their first ever shift.
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Herodotus told a tale about how Sumerian girls .. as some kind of a rite of passage would serve as a temple prostitute for at least one round. ... in such cases one might get a virgin but you would have to make a significant contribution to the temple.

Generally however .. No .. not many virgin prostitutes in the temples ... which included the Temples to YHWH during the good old days days of the Israelites :)
 
Evangelicalhumanist

Evangelicalhumanist

"Truth" isn't a thing...
Premium Member
metis said:
My results were 1. liberal Quaker and 2. Mahayana Buddhist. My wife's #1 was Sikhism.
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I've done it before. My results were always 1. Secular Humanist and 2. Quaker. It's odd, because I actually did my highschool years in a private boys school run by Quakers.
 
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Little Dragon

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viole said:
An officially recognized religion in my country.

en.wikipedia.org

Missionary Church of Kopimism - Wikipedia

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Ciao

- viole
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I suppose identical twins might hold a special place in Kopism, being copies of each other!

A very interesting religion, not sure I agree on everything it stands for, especially if I ever aspired to own my intellectual property, should I create any.

Thank you for platforming it, since I had never heard of it before.
 
viole

viole

Ontological Naturalist
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Little Dragon said:
I suppose identical twins might hold a special place in Kopism, being copies of each other!
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Good question. I need to ask the local pastor. Or whatever is equivalent to it.

Little Dragon said:
A very interesting religion, not sure I agree on everything it stands for, especially if I ever aspired to own my intellectual property, should I create any.
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Do you base belief in a religion on the level of agreement you have with its tenets?

Little Dragon said:
Thank you for platforming it, since I had never heard of it before.
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Well, you are not a North European, I guess. :)

Ciao

- viole
 
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Little Dragon

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SalixIncendium said:
After taking a day to consider the question, I would likely adopt Mahayana Buddhism, given my current religious philosophical views are as close to Buddhist views as any non-Mahayana Buddhist views can come anyway.

Belief-O-Matic tells me I'm a Mahayana Buddhist anyway. :tearsofjoy:
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Belief O Matic said I was a Secular Humanist. Which I don't mind, but to be honest, a humanist is mostly concerned with the human condition and it's future as a civilization and species, and so my personal understanding however dictates that humans are merely another species, a transient mutable thing, and in the grand scheme of things, humanity is not really that significant, in a 2+ trillion galaxy universe. To be concerned overly with humanity's fate, would be an expression of bias.
 
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