What sexual morals -- or what sort of sexual morals -- are most conducive to a healthy spirituality?

[Sunstone]

What sexual morals -- or what sort of sexual morals -- are most conducive to a healthy spirituality, and why?

By "spirituality", I mean here the manner and extent to which a person deals with, or copes with, his or her ego.

For instance, is someone selfish, or does someone "see themselves as the center of the universe", or is someone easily provoked to anger over real or imagined slights to themselves, or do they self-identify with a cause and defend it as if their very lives depended on it, etc. etc.

To me, a healthy spirituality is one in which one's ego is in check such that one does not routinely engage in foolish behavior because of it.​

Are there any specific sexual morals, or kinds of sexual morals, that are especially beneficial to creating or nurturing a healthy spirituality?

For instance, is refusing to cohabitate before marriage conducive to a health spirituality, and if so why or how?

Again, is refusing to practice homosexual sex conducive? If so, why or how?

Is practicing responsible sex life-affirming, and if so is that conducive? If so, why or how?

And so forth....

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Please note. You are free to define "spirituality" any way you wish, of course, but please make clear in your comments what you mean by the term if you depart from the definition I've given here. Just so everyone will understand you.

 

[YmirGF]

Lots of safe sex. And say, "Oh god, OH God, OH GOD!" a lot....

Doesn't get much more spiritual than that.

 

[Mister Silver]

Lots of safe sex. And say, "Oh god, OH God, OH GOD!" a lot....

Doesn't get much more spiritual than that.

I tend to say, "Yes, Daddy!" a lot.

 

[BSM1]

Lots of safe sex. And say, "Oh god, OH God, OH GOD!" a lot....

Doesn't get much more spiritual than that.

Or if you're an Atheist, "Oh, Darwin..oh, Darwin...". (I got nothin'.)

 

[arthra]

What sexual morals -- or what sort of sexual morals -- are most conducive to a healthy spirituality, and why?

For Baha'is as I understand it the legitimate channel of sexuality is through marriage with the family being an institution that is a fundamental building block for the larger society.

 

[Jumi]

Honesty and respect.

 

[SabahTheLoner]

Honest sexuality is a very beautiful energy, where the emotions of pleasure and joy itself becomes a spiritual experience. I think that many people enjoy sharing the experience with a loved one because spirituality and sex are both very personal, however an aromatic person who enjoys sexual experiences will still be emotionally affected in a similar way by sex. The body, ego, emotions and mind are very much affected by sex and sexual desire, and as a whole the spiritual aspect of a person, however defined, becomes altered.

Personally I believe that simply having consent is honest and as long as all involved are willing to be there for the experience, and talk about what's going on, it shows both a healthy sex life and a healthy sense of spirit and emotion.

 

[Skwim]

I would think that one's spirituality would pretty much dictate the bounds of a person's sexual morality. And anything outside of these limits would be detrimental, or at least adverse.

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[Mohsen]

What sexual morals -- or what sort of sexual morals -- are most conducive to a healthy spirituality?

What kind of question is that? it doesn't even make sense! What does sex have to do with spirutuality? lol, a lower animal function according to darwin and atheism, and evolution - to do with - "spirituality" ???? have you done lost your minds?

Sex is a-spiritual, it is a reproductive mechanic. If you are using sex to gratify your carnal needs and passing it off as a "spiritual experience", then I'm baffled! Coz this thread be about as useful to learning as a rocking horse needs to poo!

 

[The Emperor of Mankind]

What sexual morals -- or what sort of sexual morals -- are most conducive to a healthy spirituality?

What kind of question is that? it doesn't even make sense! What does sex have to do with spirutuality? lol, a lower animal function according to darwin and atheism, and evolution - to do with - "spirituality" ???? have you done lost your minds?

Sex is a-spiritual, it is a reproductive mechanic. If you are using sex to gratify your carnal needs and passing it off as a "spiritual experience", then I'm baffled! Coz this thread be about as useful to learning as a rocking horse needs to poo!

First, it looks like you're saying you find the idea of sexual morals offensive. Second, you've jumped straight to the conclusion that people are using this as an opportunity to brag about or justify fulfilling their needs. Third, you've not even read the ****ing OP so you don't even know the context that Sunstone is using when he defines the term "spirituality".

And finally: if this thread offends your sensibilities so badly then maybe you could just not participate in it? It's not like anybody's forcing you to...

What sexual morals -- or what sort of sexual morals -- are most conducive to a healthy spirituality, and why?

By "spirituality", I mean here the manner and extent to which a person deals with, or copes with, his or her ego.

For instance, is someone selfish, or does someone "see themselves as the center of the universe", or is someone easily provoked to anger over real or imagined slights to themselves, or do they self-identify with a cause and defend it as if their very lives depended on it, etc. etc.

To me, a healthy spirituality is one in which one's ego is in check such that one does not routinely engage in foolish behavior because of it.​

Are there any specific sexual morals, or kinds of sexual morals, that are especially beneficial to creating or nurturing a healthy spirituality?

For instance, is refusing to cohabitate before marriage conducive to a health spirituality, and if so why or how?

Again, is refusing to practice homosexual sex conducive? If so, why or how?

Is practicing responsible sex life-affirming, and if so is that conducive? If so, why or how?

And so forth....

​

Please note. You are free to define "spirituality" any way you wish, of course, but please make clear in your comments what you mean by the term if you depart from the definition I've given here. Just so everyone will understand you.

The concept of consent is a major part of how sex links into my spiritual outlook as is the concept of reciprocity. Sex, whether for the purposes of procreation, pleasure or the strengthening of personal bonds, or a mixture of these, should be enjoyable. And, in my opinion, people should ideally put their partner's enjoyment before their own. I know I've not always done this but it's something I want to work on, given the opportunity.

 

[Mohsen]

First, it looks like you're saying you find the idea of sexual morals offensive. Second, you've jumped straight to the conclusion that people are using this as an opportunity to brag about or justify fulfilling their needs. Third, you've not even read the ****ing...

Stopped reading here. You need to chill. Spiritually your ego is way off course.

peace

 

[crossfire]

"Don't allow your passion to override your compassion."

 

[sun rise]

"Don't allow your passion to override your compassion."

From my perspective, sex builds karma that has to be lived through later. If you use another person for your own satisfaction, the karma is worse. If you truly love another person, the impressions gathered are much lighter and more easily removed.

 

[Mindmaster]

What sexual morals -- or what sort of sexual morals -- are most conducive to a healthy spirituality, and why?

By "spirituality", I mean here the manner and extent to which a person deals with, or copes with, his or her ego.

For instance, is someone selfish, or does someone "see themselves as the center of the universe", or is someone easily provoked to anger over real or imagined slights to themselves, or do they self-identify with a cause and defend it as if their very lives depended on it, etc. etc.

To me, a healthy spirituality is one in which one's ego is in check such that one does not routinely engage in foolish behavior because of it.​

Are there any specific sexual morals, or kinds of sexual morals, that are especially beneficial to creating or nurturing a healthy spirituality?

For instance, is refusing to cohabitate before marriage conducive to a health spirituality, and if so why or how?

Again, is refusing to practice homosexual sex conducive? If so, why or how?

Is practicing responsible sex life-affirming, and if so is that conducive? If so, why or how?

And so forth....

​

Please note. You are free to define "spirituality" any way you wish, of course, but please make clear in your comments what you mean by the term if you depart from the definition I've given here. Just so everyone will understand you.

Pick a partner, marry them, stay with them, love them. Whether you co-habitat with them before marriage or not is irrelevant. Being single, unhitched, or in some non-traditional relationship will negatively affect your happiness, your intellect, and your success. Care to argue? All of the richest men in the world are monogamous, have long term marriages, many kids, and the whole ball of wax. Want the good life? Do the same, or fail... Up to you.

Gay marriage is a joke, only because never, and I mean never in my knowledge are two gay people that loyal to each other that they aren't playing with something on the side or whatever. It was only ever about equality in benefits, but the relationships they have with each other are NEVER the same as heterosexual couples. Please don't bother to convince me otherwise when you have some token friends you know that buck the trend, lol. Even in the case where the couple remains together they are cheating on one another, or end the marriage prematurely. Most of the gay folks I know are neurotic messes because of this, they're always listing on the waves that the environment presents them.

You are going to be stronger in every way if you have healthy familial support, and yes that includes spiritually, as well. The first part of that is forming a cohesive family unit, and having the courage to commit to it... A real marriage is, in effect, the most selfless thing you can do and the rewards of that make it worth it but you don't know until you get there. The sex is important, but tbh it just comes as a side effect of everything else being right. There is no need to focus on it, you're looking at the sugar on top rather being concerned with what went into the batter of the cookie and matters the most. The sex is basically irrelevant until the closeness is formed, and a real relationship IS a spiritual experience itself. (I've been married longer than most of the people here have been alive I'd imagine, lol)

 

[crossfire]

Pick a partner, marry them, stay with them, love them. Whether you co-habitat with them before marriage or not is irrelevant. Being single, unhitched, or in some non-traditional relationship will negatively affect your happiness, your intellect, and your success. Care to argue? All of the richest men in the world are monogamous, have long term marriages, many kids, and the whole ball of wax. Want the good life? Do the same, or fail... Up to you.

Fine for men, but what about women? It seems women are happier staying single, if they can emotionally handle the societal pressure to get married.

 

[Father Heathen]

Pick a partner, marry them, stay with them, love them. Whether you co-habitat with them before marriage or not is irrelevant. Being single, unhitched, or in some non-traditional relationship will negatively affect your happiness, your intellect, and your success. Care to argue? All of the richest men in the world are monogamous, have long term marriages, many kids, and the whole ball of wax. Want the good life? Do the same, or fail... Up to you.

Gay marriage is a joke, only because never, and I mean never in my knowledge are two gay people that loyal to each other that they aren't playing with something on the side or whatever. It was only ever about equality in benefits, but the relationships they have with each other are NEVER the same as heterosexual couples. Please don't bother to convince me otherwise when you have some token friends you know that buck the trend, lol. Even in the case where the couple remains together they are cheating on one another, or end the marriage prematurely. Most of the gay folks I know are neurotic messes because of this, they're always listing on the waves that the environment presents them.

You are going to be stronger in every way if you have healthy familial support, and yes that includes spiritually, as well. The first part of that is forming a cohesive family unit, and having the courage to commit to it... A real marriage is, in effect, the most selfless thing you can do and the rewards of that make it worth it but you don't know until you get there. The sex is important, but tbh it just comes as a side effect of everything else being right. There is no need to focus on it, you're looking at the sugar on top rather being concerned with what went into the batter of the cookie and matters the most. The sex is basically irrelevant until the closeness is formed, and a real relationship IS a spiritual experience itself. (I've been married longer than most of the people here have been alive I'd imagine, lol)

...Are you sure you're LHP?

 

[oldbadger]

What sexual morals -- or what sort of sexual morals -- are most conducive to a healthy spirituality, and why?

By "spirituality", I mean here the manner and extent to which a person deals with, or copes with, his or her ego.

For instance, is someone selfish, or does someone "see themselves as the center of the universe", or is someone easily provoked to anger over real or imagined slights to themselves, or do they self-identify with a cause and defend it as if their very lives depended on it, etc. etc.

To me, a healthy spirituality is one in which one's ego is in check such that one does not routinely engage in foolish behavior because of it.​

Are there any specific sexual morals, or kinds of sexual morals, that are especially beneficial to creating or nurturing a healthy spirituality?

For instance, is refusing to cohabitate before marriage conducive to a health spirituality, and if so why or how?

Again, is refusing to practice homosexual sex conducive? If so, why or how?

Is practicing responsible sex life-affirming, and if so is that conducive? If so, why or how?

And so forth....

​

Please note. You are free to define "spirituality" any way you wish, of course, but please make clear in your comments what you mean by the term if you depart from the definition I've given here. Just so everyone will understand you.

None! Absolutely none!
I recently discussed with a Jewish sage about the laws of Moses, and mentioned the word 'spiritual'. He replied that the word was meaningless for him.

And Yes, I get it!
The Laws of Moses had absolutely nothing at all to do with spirituality, they were written to protect, strengthen and increase the whole nation.

Don't marry relatives.... protects from weaknesses.
Marry and have kids....... strengthens the people.
Dont commit adultery or homosexuality....... protects from dreadful illnesses sweeping through the people.

And closed SSMs could not happen because although they would protect from sweeping sicknesses, marriages were needed to produce kids...... for the people to increase.

The shellfish law was probably more important than the incest laws, for example. Dreadful mass killer, Shellfish Poison Paralysis.

And so, in a World where we just don't need the population to increase, closed couples including SSMs are absolutely ideal, unless the views of self-righteous judgemental religious fundamentalists are sought.

 

[Liu]

Pick a partner, marry them, stay with them, love them. Whether you co-habitat with them before marriage or not is irrelevant. Being single, unhitched, or in some non-traditional relationship will negatively affect your happiness, your intellect, and your success. Care to argue? All of the richest men in the world are monogamous, have long term marriages, many kids, and the whole ball of wax. Want the good life? Do the same, or fail... Up to you.

Statistically you are right, I suppose, but this is simply not possible for some.

In regards to the thread's question, I'd assume it strongly depends on the person.
I.e. on whether they are hetero or homo or bi or pan or ace,
whether they are romantic or aromantic,
how high their sex drive is,
and what ideas of morality they already have.
They should do what they need to sate their urges, unless it hinders them at their other goals or brings them in a moral conflict.

I mean, I'm ace and aromantic, and I don't care much for material wealth.
Why should I then take on the hassle of starting a relationship I'm simply not interested in?

I sometimes notice my sex drive hindering me at my other goals (e.g. it's a bit bothersome to fap all afternoon and then have no time for what you actually had intended to do). But I guess that could even be considered conductive for one's spirituality as defined in the OP as I encourages one to get more disciplined with oneself and shows one one's boundaries and hang-ups.

Whether any form of complete chastity would be conductive, I kinda doubt it, unless one somehow manages to re-direct instead of simply suppress or just has such a low sex drive that it doesn't make a difference anyway.

But in general, I don't see how one's sexual activities per se would correlate much to one's spirituality, unless one uses them as a tool for experimenting with e.g. changes in consciousness - but such would be out of the range of the OP's definition I think.

 

[Electra]

If we know that simply hanging around someone makes you more like this other, sex is an extreme of this.
Match with those you wish to be like.
Know your worth.
See the bigger picture.

 

[JJ50]

What sexual morals -- or what sort of sexual morals -- are most conducive to a healthy spirituality, and why?

By "spirituality", I mean here the manner and extent to which a person deals with, or copes with, his or her ego.

For instance, is someone selfish, or does someone "see themselves as the center of the universe", or is someone easily provoked to anger over real or imagined slights to themselves, or do they self-identify with a cause and defend it as if their very lives depended on it, etc. etc.

To me, a healthy spirituality is one in which one's ego is in check such that one does not routinely engage in foolish behavior because of it.​

Are there any specific sexual morals, or kinds of sexual morals, that are especially beneficial to creating or nurturing a healthy spirituality?

For instance, is refusing to cohabitate before marriage conducive to a health spirituality, and if so why or how?

Again, is refusing to practice homosexual sex conducive? If so, why or how?

Is practicing responsible sex life-affirming, and if so is that conducive? If so, why or how?

And so forth....

​

Please note. You are free to define "spirituality" any way you wish, of course, but please make clear in your comments what you mean by the term if you depart from the definition I've given here. Just so everyone will understand you.

There is nothing wrong with having sex, gay or straight, in an adult consenting relationship, providing you are not cheating on your partner, and taking sensible precautions.