What sexual morals -- or what sort of sexual morals -- are most conducive to a healthy spirituality?

[DavidFirth]

Sex is only healthy and righteous if it involves only a man and a woman in holy matrimony. Otherwise it is sin.

 

[Liu]

Sex is only healthy and righteous if it involves only a man and a woman in holy matrimony. Otherwise it is sin.

Would you care to elaborate what makes you think so?

 

[Mindmaster]

respect


...Are you sure you're LHP?

A socially awkward Internet troll who doesn't have a successful family life brings to me much more question as to whether one is LHP than anything I've stated. Besides, my commentary is strictly mathematical in nature... Certain activities lead to certain outcomes, and successful people of all walks have certain traits. Success is a measure of happiness more than anything else - your domestic happiness reflects greatly on the spiritual traits you exhibit as well. I will not, however, give credence to the notion that any of this is purely the dominion of any particular religious path, but rather the measure of any true happiness (and if you must, cut it up into various sexual, psychological, and spiritual sections -- though in reality THEY'RE NOT) is non-denominational and similarities will be found across belief systems.

People tend to compartmentalize these things when they are personally lacking in one of these sections - like cherishing their sexual prowess despite being a single un-marriageable bachelor for the last 20 years or fapping to their "intellectual superiority" despite there being no product thereby produced in as much time. In the end, success and happiness are the same thing and the inability to form lasting intimate relationships even puts into question the devotion to one's spiritual path via that very fact. If you cannot keep a promise to a lover, how can you keep a promise to yourself or a deity? Are you really on a path or just floating around filling your head with a bunch of psuedo-intellectual bric-a-brac because it sounds good? The LHP is my path, but since it is mine I fashion it according to the ultimate outcome I desire. I don't have to be a single basement dweller without a marriage or kids because I don't buy into that stereotypical garbage. I can have everything I want, and I'll get it.

 

[pearl]

There is nothing wrong with having sex, gay or straight, in an adult consenting relationship, providing you are not cheating on your partner

I think the key is a committed relationship. In order to be fully committed one must be true to her/his sexuality. It is this form of intimacy that is spiritual. Any sex act in itself is nothing more than bedroom gymnastics with a short lived moment of gratification.

 

[ThePainefulTruth]

What sexual morals -- or what sort of sexual morals -- are most conducive to a healthy spirituality, and why?

By "spirituality", I mean here the manner and extent to which a person deals with, or copes with, his or her ego.

For instance, is someone selfish, or does someone "see themselves as the center of the universe", or is someone easily provoked to anger over real or imagined slights to themselves, or do they self-identify with a cause and defend it as if their very lives depended on it, etc. etc.

To me, a healthy spirituality is one in which one's ego is in check such that one does not routinely engage in foolish behavior because of it.​

Are there any specific sexual morals, or kinds of sexual morals, that are especially beneficial to creating or nurturing a healthy spirituality?

For instance, is refusing to cohabitate before marriage conducive to a health spirituality, and if so why or how?

Again, is refusing to practice homosexual sex conducive? If so, why or how?

Is practicing responsible sex life-affirming, and if so is that conducive? If so, why or how?

And so forth....

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Please note. You are free to define "spirituality" any way you wish, of course, but please make clear in your comments what you mean by the term if you depart from the definition I've given here. Just so everyone will understand you.

Consensual sex between adults is not a moral issue. Morality is violating the rights of others. In order to keep things clear, I call a personal, subjective code of behavior, virtue.

What is "refusing to practice homosexual sex"??? Just for starters, that sounds like crossing the line over non-consensual.

 

[Mindmaster]

But in general, I don't see how one's sexual activities per se would correlate much to one's spirituality, unless one uses them as a tool for experimenting with e.g. changes in consciousness - but such would be out of the range of the OP's definition I think.

For most of what you've said, I'd agree.

I think ultimately people think of sexuality on a very _small scale_, however I mostly just speak from experience. There is a spiritual component to an extremely intimate relationship, and it does have an affect on your progression. Whatever you are doing you will do it better with such a strong emotional and spiritual support in your life - even if you typically see no need for it. I literally see all the sexual actions previous to my wife as wasted time, tbh, they were just physical and awkward rather than being something completely enrapturing and spiritual. If you find the right one the entire microcosm tilts around that person...

Admittedly, I sort have diverged from the OP in that it's a strange and boring intellectual analysis of something that is very spiritual, personal, and magical. Maybe, I just don't know how to address it without simply mocking it?

 

[crossfire]

respect


...Are you sure you're LHP?

I see a lot of this within LHP circles. :/

 

[JJ50]

Sex is only healthy and righteous if it involves only a man and a woman in holy matrimony. Otherwise it is sin.

'Sin' is such a meaningless little word! God supposedly got Mary who would have been a young girl pregnant when she and Joseph were in a relationship, therefore it 'sinned'.

 

[DavidFirth]

Would you care to elaborate what makes you think so?

The Holy Bible.

 

[JJ50]

The Holy Bible.

The Bible is a human creation, imo.

 

[DavidFirth]

The Bible is a human creation, imo.

Inspired by the Holy Spirit, which makes it a divine creation. The books not inspired have been thrown out long ago.

 

[Akivah]

What sexual morals -- or what sort of sexual morals -- are most conducive to a healthy spirituality, and why?

G-d understands us the best. The most healthy sexual morals we can have is committed monogamous relations between a man and a woman.

 

[JJ50]

Inspired by the Holy Spirit, which makes it a divine creation. The books not inspired have been thrown out long ago.

There is no evidence the sky fairy exists, let alone that it inspired anything. If it did it certainly isn't shown up in a very good light, that not so good book!

 

[The Emperor of Mankind]

Stopped reading here.

Probably a good idea; I don't want you to strain yourself.

your ego is way off course.

Says the guy who made a post informing us all how offended he is by this thread. Keep throwing stones from inside your glass house.

 

[Skwim]

There is nothing wrong with having sex, gay or straight, in an adult consenting relationship, providing you are not cheating on your partner, and taking sensible precautions.

I can go along with that.

Religion, Christianity in particular, has stigmatized sex and the human body so badly that some of our cultural norms are laughable if not outright asinine.

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[DavidFirth]

There is no evidence the sky fairy exists, let alone that it inspired anything. If it did it certainly isn't shown up in a very good light, that not so good book!

What sky fairy?

 

[Mohsen]

Probably a good idea; I don't want you to strain yourself.

I wasn't the one "straining" to make a point without using profanity as a crutch

Says the guy who made a post informing us all how offended he is by this thread. Keep throwing stones from inside your glass house.

You love to straw man don't you? Can't you make a point without assumptions? Where did I mention I was offended? To clarify my position, I found this thread pointless - and find you, backed into a corner - not the other way round.

Peace

 

[The Emperor of Mankind]

I wasn't the one "straining" to make a point without using profanity as a crutch

Indeed. You were the one straining to finish reading something.

You love to straw man don't you? Can't you make a point without assumptions? Where did I mention I was offended?

Your rant reads like the words of one who's encountered something that offends their sensibilities.

To clarify my position, I found this thread pointless

Which leads me neatly back to my original question: why not just avoid participating in it?

- and find you, backed into a corner - not the other way round.

Do you regularly fantasise about backing guys into a corner?

 

[Mohsen]

Indeed. You were the one straining to finish reading something.




Your rant reads like the words of one who's encountered something that offends their sensibilities.




Which leads me neatly back to my original question: why not just avoid participating in it?




Do you regularly fantasise about backing guys into a corner?

I counted three strawmen, and a no true Scotsman fallacy in one post lol

 

[The Emperor of Mankind]

I counted three strawmen, and a no true Scotsman fallacy in one post lol

Your continued evasion is noted.