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What skill does Trump have that Biden doesn in regards to the economy?

Who is best able to manage the economy going forward?

  • Biden

    Votes: 12 66.7%
  • Trump

    Votes: 6 33.3%
  • RFK

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    18

Pogo

Well-Known Member
I don't think the biggest thing Trump did to improve the economy was to get Government out of the way and allow free Enterprise to run rapid. Cutting regulations that had been in place for years, drilling for Oil in ways previously not allowed, getting rid of green policies that can't stand on their own, I think things like that allowed the economy to expand the way it did on his watch. I think Biden is more likely to work in putting more regulations in place. When Biden said "big oil has no place in the Biden Administration" I believe he meant it.
Trump is back to denying the physical reality of climate change in pursuit of short term objectives which will only increase the cost to the future. This is like the republican tax cuts since Reagan which have benefited the short term economy or at least the perception as the rich get richer but in the end has stifled infrastructure which is the purpose of government and to the benefit of all and left us with huge deficits.
It is short term thinking and not in the best interests of anybody when one looks at longer term effects. We are already seeing the effects on the masses in rise in insurance rates due to the increase in storm severity and frequency. These are were predictable results from years of scientific study that have been exacerbated by this insistence on quick profits from oil production.

This Republican attitude is the real hoax and the Republican elite know it but deny it so long as they can fool a base large enough to keep them in power.
Note, Democrats are not blameless but what attempts to deal with the future for all are coming from their side.
 

anotherneil

Well-Known Member
Which explains his 6 bankruptcies as opposed to 0 for Biden.
Trump is just the proof that the degree by itself is just a piece of paper.

:facepalm:

And there are also plenty of athletes who have lost more professional games than Biden; I'm sure that makes Biden qualified to be a starting quarterback for the Superbowl.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Trump is focused on himself, that is it.
Everything else he says and does is lipservice in furtherance of himself.
He cares not one whit for the American Public or law or justice or morality......
Not really.

Focused to a tee. Then to now.


 

Kfox

Well-Known Member
It's My Birthday!
I hope so. But "big oil" will be able to buy a place in the Trump Administration for -
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Those are just talking points designed to give a false impression. The reality is; "Big Oil" is just a pejorative for what is actually called "Energy Companies"(no longer called oil companies because they are into all types of energy; not just oil) and energy companies invest more into green energy, and alternatives to oil than any other company. But of course nobody points that out because these facts don't make good talking points
 

fantome profane

Anti-Woke = Anti-Justice
Premium Member
Those are just talking points designed to give a false impression. The reality is; "Big Oil" is just a pejorative for what is actually called "Energy Companies"(no longer called oil companies because they are into all types of energy; not just oil) and energy companies invest more into green energy, and alternatives to oil than any other company. But of course nobody points that out because these facts don't make good talking points
Of course you realize that none of that matters the slightest bit. It does not make any difference at all if Trump was trying to elicit a bribe from "big oil" or if he was trying to elicit a bribe from "Energy Companies".

But nice try.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
Donald Trump has a degree in economics & Biden and RFK Jr. do not.

So, basic Judeo-Christian morals don't matter to you? Biden regularly attends church services and Trump never does while claiming he's a devout Christian?
 

anotherneil

Well-Known Member
So, basic Judeo-Christian morals don't matter to you? Biden regularly attends church services and Trump never does while claiming he's a devout Christian?
This might answer your question: I'm not religious, and I don't see anything good that comes out of religion.

Incidentally, I was told that my grandmother was friends with Joe Biden. My family on both sides is Roman Catholic. I also have a cousin who knows the Biden family personally and has had Jill Biden as a professor. I guess since I have mentioned on this forum that my mother is from South America, I'd might as well mention that this is my father's side of the family from Wilmington Delaware. I have been told that Joe Biden was once at a family reunion for my father's side of the family as a guest (he's not a relative); this was decades ago, long before he became POTUS. My grandmother was what I was told was called a judge in something to do with a divorce in the Roman Catholic church (not anything to do with a judicial branch of government judge), and Joe Biden had been to her house for meetings about that. I guess Joe Biden, at the time, was playing a role as a lawyer for one of the individuals getting divorced, but I don't know.

Anyhow, yes, I was raised Roman Catholic and had first communion, but I never went through confirmation, and I don't attend church services or practice any of it in any way.

Unlike my personal story about my family, does Joe Biden's or Donald Trump's - wait, why did you leave out RFK Jr - personal religious beliefs and practices have anything to do with the economy?
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
Unlike my personal story about my family, does Joe Biden's or Donald Trump's - wait, why did you leave out RFK Jr - personal religious beliefs and practices have anything to do with the economy?

A self-centered person like Trump only has one economy in his mind, and it's his. His own sister, who he says he the closest to, basically says that he is entirely self-centered and has no real compassion for others, and Trump's own niece agrees with his sister.

Why do you hate America to the point that you would support a candidate and former president that has 0 compassion for others? By citing economics, are you saying that money triumphs over all? Honesty isn't important?
 

anotherneil

Well-Known Member
A self-centered person like Trump only has one economy in his mind, and it's his. His own sister, who he says he the closest to, basically says that he is entirely self-centered and has no real compassion for others, and Trump's own niece agrees with his sister.
Being perceived as self-centered is not necessarily a bad thing.

I'd much rather have someone at the helm of the nation's economy who isn't going to B.S. me and sugar coat themselves, than someone who tries to get my support and vote with a friendly smile and "I care about you" or "I feel you pain" (they're the ones practiced in doing that sort of thing because they know that they're going to be leaving a trail of destruction and actually have a screw you attitude), and with a political platform that isn't economically sound. The philosophy on the economy by the Democrats and socialists is inherently flawed, such as broken window fallacy and economic calculation problem stuff.

If Trump or anyone else wants to gear the economy to make this a better place for themselves and their family, and that - in turn - means a better place for myself, my family, my community, and my country, then I'm fine with it.

Why do you hate America to the point that you would support a candidate and former president that has 0 compassion for others?
Cute loaded question, but if you mean why do I hate the presence of bad economic policy in America (or anywhere else, for that matter), then it's because I want good, sound economic policy.

By citing economics, are you saying that money triumphs over all?
You're asking this as though economics has nothing to do with this thread - DUDE! It's in the title! :laughing:

I'm actually a proponent of transitioning to a post-scarcity society, where there is no need for trade & money, and along with that no need for jobs; I don't believe that this is something that'll happen today with a mere change in government policies, but I do think bad government policies can delay or indefinitely prevent it.

Without the advanced enough development and implementation of automation, robotics, and other forms of technology, such idea isn't feasible; until we get that, we're stuck with what we have available today.

A person can either live a life as a complete hermit in some faraway place from other members of society so they don't have to engage in trade or the use of money, and be self-sufficient (which my economics professor pointed out leads to poverty), running around probably naked in the middle of the woods trying to hunt small animals with sticks and stones - I suppose, or an individual can be part of society, work with it, trade with it, become a jack-of-all-trades and master of one, and mutually benefit from that.

Money is just a way of making the economy far more efficient than bartering & unfortunate as it may be, that's what we have to deal with for now.

Honesty isn't important?
Honesty is completely important, and the Biden administration isn't being honest about its actions jacking up the economy either to themselves, the nation, or both.
 

fantome profane

Anti-Woke = Anti-Justice
Premium Member
A self-centered person like Trump only has one economy in his mind, and it's his.
Being perceived as self-centered is not necessarily a bad thing.

I don't believe that "self-centered" is the proper term to describe someone like Donald Trump. I believe the more correct term would be "Malignant Narcissist"

Trump is not just self-centered, he is dangerously delusional.
 
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