What the world's religious landscape will look like in 2100

[Sees]

What would be interesting is to make a graph based on information from say 1930, then another around 1970, and compare to current ones. See how the predictions hold up. Would people predicting the religious landscape of today based on info from back then have been spot on or close?

Conversion rates and birth rates can vary wildly depending on events that take place.

 

[Noa]

No one is promoting the genocide of Muslims here. If Islam implodes soon, it'll be by their own hands.

I find it bizarre you think one of the largest religions in the world will somehow implode. Care to say why?

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

I find it bizarre you think one of the largest religions in the world will somehow implode. Care to say why?

It was more a comment on what @YmirGF was getting at. I make no predictions as to what will happen to Islam. From what I see, it appears to be on the rise, as Westerners become increasingly materialistic and sterile and Muslims move to the West in droves and sustain a high birth rate.

 

[Lyndon]

I find it bizarre you think one of the largest religions in the world will somehow implode. Care to say why?

Yeah, Islam is no more or less likely to implode than Christianity is, as much as some people would like to see it implode, and would like to send military aid to further the rate of implosion.

 

[Noa]

It was more a comment on what @YmirGF was getting at. I make no predictions as to what will happen to Islam. From what I see, it appears to be on the rise, as Westerners become increasingly materialistic and sterile and Muslims move to the West in droves and sustain a high birth rate.

Pardon. I was confused as to who had originally brought it up.

 

[Noa]

It's actually a form of reverse prejudice.


As for the OP, after the implosion of Islam in the next 50 years, I highly doubt there will be many who will think to call themselves Muslims left to worry much about it.

Alright, asking the correct individual this time. What makes you think Islam will implode? I find that rather bizarre.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Being 85 years off, it's really impossible to tell. But, what we can reasonable assume is no matter the religion or location, people are going to continue to become more liberal, people who get upset over things like non-theism and homosexuality will be a slim minority, and religion will not be as important or present in the public sphere. But, then again, we may all have our brains wired into a evolved internet type of thing, and all societies as we know them will hardly be recognizable to us. But it is very safe to assume that technology will shape the year 2100 in a way that no one has seen before.
Or we might just kill ourselves off and there won't be anyone left to propagate any ideology. Or maybe the apes will take over?

 

[DawudTalut]

...."By the year 2100, about 1 per cent more of the world’s population would be Muslim (35 per cent) than Christian (34 per cent)," the authors wrote.
...

Peace be on you.
84 years to go AND mention of about 1 per cent.
Can anyone make such precise statement!

Secondly, what kind of Muslims? peaceful ones or the ones who have incorrect idea of jihad and have no tolerance ?

Thirdly, of these 34 Christians how many really practice their true faith?

Do these statisticsS differentiate b/n practicing believers and who are adherents to their faith with words only?

By 2100 What will happen to Oil deposits and associated version of Islam and its effects?

By 2100, What will happen to climate and migrations? Is it considered?

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Peace be on you.
84 years to go AND mention of about 1 per cent.
Can anyone make such precise statement!

Secondly, what kind of Muslims? peaceful ones or the ones who have incorrect idea of jihad and have no tolerance ?

Thirdly, of these 34 Christians how many really practice their true faith?

Do these statisticsS differentiate b/n practicing believers and who are adherents to their faith with words only?

By 2100 What will happen to Oil deposits and associated version of Islam and its effects?

By 2100, What will happen to climate and migrations? Is it considered?

All good questions.

 

[Noa]

I would like to point out that serious studies of this sort are always careful about stating their projections. No respected sociologist or statistician would make a projection without saying their margin of error and including disclaimers such as 'if current trends continue' and so forth.

 

[YmirGF]

Alright, asking the correct individual this time. What makes you think Islam will implode? I find that rather bizarre.

It's inability to deal with modernity. It will simply collapse under its own weight as it proves to be unable to reconcile with the modern world. Muslims will leave Islam in unprecedented droves. I've read some estimates that claim that if Muslims were able to renounce Islam in the current Islamic societies WITHOUT serious repercussions for doing so, up to 1/3 would cease to claim any affiliation and that is a quote from about 10 years ago.

The only way Muslims are going to disappear in the next 85 years is through massive genocide, hence my reply above, I can only take comments like these to represent pro genocide philosophy, which obviously I find totally abhorrent. Not that there are not some extremist Muslims that support a pro genocide philosophy against non Muslims and Jews. One wrong does not make another right.

It's not what we will do to them, it's what will happen in the Muslim world itself without our aid.

I would like to point out that serious studies of this sort are always careful about stating their projections. No respected sociologist or statistician would make a projection without saying their margin of error and including disclaimers such as 'if current trends continue' and so forth.

And, given that this trend continues, they may well be correct. That is certainly not going to take into account current Muslims throwing off the shakles of Islamic thought and embracing modernity. Watch and wait...

 

[Lyndon]

So in a country that's virtually 100% Muslim, freedom to leave the religion is given and 33% of Muslims become secular or other, leaving 66% still Muslim. Funny if we were to replace Muslim with Christian; 66% Christian and 33% secular or other that sounds just like the present United States, hardly an implosion of the Muslim or Christian religions!!

 

[Noa]

I see no reason to think that Islam is unable to deal with modernity.

 

[Shad]

I see no reason to think that Islam is unable to deal with modernity.

I believe there is an unspoken brand of "modernity" hiding behind the word. Most likely a western view point. This then assumes Islamic cultures and/or nations wish to follow this form after establishing their own brand for decades. A concern should be what forms of Islam will be around. It may not be a form the majority now support or could be a radical minority we see springing up in small bunches in areas of conflict.

 

[Rick O'Shez]

No, we'll be invaded by space-alien atheists and theists will be exiled to a Martian colony. Hurrah!

 

[Laika]

What would be interesting is to make a graph based on information from say 1930, then another around 1970, and compare to current ones. See how the predictions hold up. Would people predicting the religious landscape of today based on info from back then have been spot on or close?

Conversion rates and birth rates can vary wildly depending on events that take place.

The Short-Version: This has some intresting figures, but I'm not sure how they were generated.
http://christianityinview.com/religion-statistics.html

Spoiler: The Long Version

I can think of at least four major events that wouldn't have been predicted that would send the figures out:

1) World War II and the Holocaust. It was only in September 1930, that Hitler/Nazis got 18% of the vote in the Reichstage elections. Before then, they were politically irrelevant, so that wouldn't have been predicted.

2) The Soviet occupation of Eastern Europe and the fall of the Iron Curtian (1945-48) would have had an affect on their religious populations.Even if you tried to calculate religious populations in the USSR in 1930 when it was had a "five year plan" to eliminate religion, the effects of world war II (somewhere between 20 and 40 million deaths) would be hard to calculate.

3) In 1930, China was in the midst of a brutal civil war, and in 1931, the Japanese invaded and set up the puppet state of Manchquo. The Second Sino-Japanese War (1937-1945) killed between 20 and 35 million people. The People's Republic of China was founded in 1949 with a population of 540 million or so, about 1/5 of the world's population for 1950. 1970 falls slap bang in the middle of the Cultural Revolution period (1966-1976) so that would send the statistics for many religions out or make it hard to estimate. The Great Leap Forward (1959-61) also had a major effect on world population statistics as the largest famine in history with estimates ranging from 18 to 35 million people.

4) the Partition of India (1947) would have affected statistics as the region had a very large population (Pakistan and India probably equal to China). 200,000 -500,000 people died in religious motivated genocides, and 14 million people were displaced.

Just reeling those figures out is a little bit shocking for how destructive that period was.

There's also the "What ifs" of the Cuban Missile Crisis in 1962 in that period as well, but I think any futurologist would want to leave that one alone. In 1930 people were worried about the effects of ariel warfare attacking civilians. nuclear warfare was still something yet to be imagined. it would be an act of cruelty for a time traveller to finish the story in October 1962 without saying how that 'collective nervous breakdown' ended.

Yeah. 1930 was not a good year to look into the future.

 

[The Emperor of Mankind]

Haha...

I was being semi-serious...

Why not my depicted utopia instead of modernized reality? And do ya' think modernized reality has what it takes to stand the test of time?

The society we live in now? Certainly not. Fortunately there are more possibilities than 'things continuing as they are' or 'complete destruction'.

Do you believe that you'll be forgiven in the next, for that which you helped create in the current?!

Considering I don't believe in a judgemental afterlife, I wouldn't say I'll there'll be anything to do any forgiving.

 

[Lyndon]

Being 85 years off, it's really impossible to tell. But, what we can reasonable assume is no matter the religion or location, people are going to continue to become more liberal, people who get upset over things like non-theism and homosexuality will be a slim minority, and religion will not be as important or present in the public sphere. But, then again, we may all have our brains wired into a evolved internet type of thing, and all societies as we know them will hardly be recognizable to us. But it is very safe to assume that technology will shape the year 2100 in a way that no one has seen before.
Or we might just kill ourselves off and there won't be anyone left to propagate any ideology. Or maybe the apes will take over?

You seem to have the idea that religion is weak, and atheism is strong. When actually IMHO its just the opposite, religion evolves, I'm sure gay marriage will be reluctantly accepted by most Christians in the near future, Marriage for Priests and the end of the Celibate clergy, acceptance of birth control and the acceptance of non members getting abortions. A return to the charity message for the less fortunate, poor and disabled, church run homeless shelters and food kitchens all over the country. The message of God through Jesus is much stronger than man's ability to twist religion to their own desires.

Things are going to change and religion will grow perhaps not stronger, but more suited to the times and needs of the people, and this is a strong message, The fundamentalist far right is the Taliban of America right here today, right now, the have stolen and bastardized the true message of Jesus, into a selfish rip off of the faithful, and turned religion into the laughing stock of much of America, The Tea party are not Christians, they have nothing to do with Jesus, they are every bit as evil, and just as dangerous as the Taliban, ISIS and AL Qaeda. We have to fight a non physical war to take back our country from these extremists, we have this silly idea that Muslims are the ones having all the problems with extremists, when we have about 100 tea party extremists sitting in our congress today, this is a fight, we can't snooze and let them win, their idea of America is to sell you into slavery.

God is not the problem, Jesus is definitely not the problem, people telling you lies claiming they came from God is the problem, Religion is not the problem; bad religion, hypocrisy, molesters, criminals collecting tithes, that is the problem, If your religion isn't helping the very people Jesus and his disciples helped, and isn't condemning the very people Jesus condemned (Pharisees and Sadducees of today) Then your religion is a false religion and will only last a short time till True religion triumphs, then Atheists can say I don't believe in God, but I don't have any problem with good Christians, and Christians can say all religions, atheists, agnostics, humanist are blessed children of God, and deserve life just like everyone else.

 

[Godobeyer]

No one is promoting the genocide of Muslims here. If Islam implodes soon, it'll be by their own hands.

and interventions , in Iraq and Libya and Syria, Afghanistan (against Soviet Union) ....etc

sometimes indirect war (let's burn it up) is more effective than direct war , that's what happened with Muslims .

 

[s13ep]

The society we live in now? Certainly not. Fortunately there are more possibilities than 'things continuing as they are' or 'complete destruction'.



Considering I don't believe in a judgemental afterlife, I wouldn't say I'll there'll be anything to do any forgiving.

You ignored the primary question and went all out on the secondary; and no there isn't 'more chance things continuing as they are', that's stupidity thinking pollution, all types of wastefulness, war, and so on, won't destroy our healthy habitat.

There're plenty of people who believe in heaven and hell; it doesn't matter what you say you believe, it's what you do to support your belief that counts. You can deny heaven and hell but that doesn't change the fact you'll be judged one day.

Visually, it's proven that heaven and hell exist! Vocally, however, when in a worded-world where our tongues have priority over our sights, it cannot be proven; heaven and hell are opposites---they require that we think in opposites to understand. You are the hell upon my/our (a lot of other people's) Earth; hell is possible for us on Earth, through other humans, why not in the whole of nature/universe?! You were born of nature, why will you not die of nature? Wordlessness supports salvation and doom; people have hallucinations, dreams/nightmares all the time, the visualized state of a nightmare or dream is ineffable---I'd expect one, or the other, upon my death, and, I don't see any different for those of whom say that 'I don't believe'.

There's proof out there, it's called cubeism, but just like the primary question that you missed, you 'non-believers' will continue to pervert Earth without guilt of the next generations you cause to suffer---ignorant of the cubist method. I need not say anymore than check this users history. And I imagine that's how easy it is for nature, a simple forgiving "awwh" or condemning "urgh", to send one falling down or rising up, comfortably or uncomfortably.