What was Jewish about Jesus?

[whirlingmerc]

This becomes VERY problematic considering that there was NO Exodus.. There wasn't even any place called Goshen for another 1500 years.[/QUOTE

There not only was an EXODUS from physical slavery, there is a greater EXODUS from sin.

So you don't celebrate Passover???

 

[sooda]

The Psalms speak of the Messiah in Psalm 110 as being raised to the right hand of God on the order of Melchizedek.

Genesis doesn't describe him as a pagan cananite rather a priest of the most high God and Chabad seems to agree when I looked.
"Melchizedek the king of Salem brought out bread and wine, and he was a priest to the Most High God. And [Melchizedek] blessed him, and he said, "Blessed be Abram to the Most High God—Who possesses heaven and earth—and blessed be the Most High God, Who has delivered your adversaries into your hand."

“For this Melchisedec, king of Salem, priest of the most high God, who met Abraham returning from the slaughter of the kings, and blessed him; To whom also Abraham gave a tenth part of all; first being by interpretation King of righteousness, and after that also King of Salem, which is, King of peace; Without father, without mother, without descent, having neither beginning of days, nor end of life; but made like unto the Son of God; abideth a priest continually. Now consider how great this man was, unto whom even the patriarch Abraham gave the tenth of the spoils.” Hebrews 7:1-4 (KJV)

 

[sooda]

So you don't celebrate Passover???

No.. I don't celebrate Passover.

 

[Desert Snake]

I mean, Jesus is called 'Jesu God', a deific name. Which itself isn't an obscure vague ethnic and religious [[non deity title.

 

[sooda]

Greetings.

Jesus isn't 'jewish', get a hold of yourself. 'Jewish' means, in modern definition, basically a religious classification that wants nothing to do with jesus, and you are creating a weird scenario where deity is an 'an ethnic and religious or something group'.

Of course Jesus is Jewish. What is your issue?

 

[sooda]

'Neither jew, nor greek, ' so forth, yet you call Jesus "jewish" ?

The High Priest , spiritual transcendant persona "jewish"?

Paul wrote Galatians 3:28 around 50 AD.. He is writing about what he/Paul says not what Jesus said. There is no way Paul could know what Jesus said about that.

 

[Desert Snake]

Paul wrote Galatians 3:28 around 50 AD.. He is writing about what he/Paul says not what Jesus said. There is no way Paul could know what Jesus said about that.

'Jewish' doesn't have the same meaning in every context. In the Christian Bible, 'jewish' means Yehudi, Judahite, and in Judaism, this doesn't correlate. Now, is it logical to call Jesus 'jewish', without this delineation? The religions are different. [This isn't a linear difference, it is actual difference, as noted by the Rabbis.

So, yes, you can call the human jesus, Jewish, however it isn't "judaism".

 

[Thief]

What is "Jew" that Jesus wasn't?

I posted a long list in another thread

not sure how to drag and drop it here

 

[Desert Snake]

It is linear with Jesus religion, not with
• modern judaism
• any Pharisees that didn't agree with jesus
• Sadducee religion
It doesn't matter if this was codified after Jesus in Israel.

 

[Thief]

called King of the Jews?

a false accusation

the Pharisees wanted Him dead
but under Roman occupation had no law for execution
only Rome could issue such a conviction

that He referred to God as His Father
implied His status as a Son of God
this.....the Pharisees objected to

but Rome did not care that claim
not a problem under Roman law

so......the false accusation
He would be King of the Jews

THAT was cause for Rome to execute Him

but in His ministry He would leave every occasion
when the topic came up
He wanted no crown on His head

 

[pearl]

the Pharisees wanted Him dead

But as I have it the Pharisees had no seat on the Sanhedrin which found Jesus guilty and turned him over to Pilate.

 

[Thief]

But as I have it the Pharisees had no seat on the Sanhedrin which found Jesus guilty and turned him over to Pilate.

it was noted when the Pharisees came asking
Which law is greatest?
Have you come to take the old law away?

when He spoke the Golden Rule....
Do unto others as you would them do unto you

He was looking them in the eye

the notation follows.....
from that hour they sought to kill Him

 

[sooda]

'Jewish' doesn't have the same meaning in every context. In the Christian Bible, 'jewish' means Yehudi, Judahite, and in Judaism, this doesn't correlate. Now, is it logical to call Jesus 'jewish', without this delineation? The religions are different. [This isn't a linear difference, it is actual difference, as noted by the Rabbis.

So, yes, you can call the human jesus, Jewish, however it isn't "judaism".

Jesus lived and died a Jew.. What do you mean? What did the Rabbis say? You do know there was no Rabbinic Judaism until AFTER the destruction of the Temple.

 

[sooda]

it was noted when the Pharisees came asking
Which law is greatest?
Have you come to take the old law away?

when He spoke the Golden Rule....
Do unto others as you would them do unto you

He was looking them in the eye

the notation follows.....
from that hour they sought to kill Him

Jesus didn't condemn ALL Pharisees.. just those he thought were hypocrites.. Jesus was himself a Pharisee.

Part of the problem was that the Judeans hated the people in the north.. in Galilee and Samaria (Israel) and considered them Hellenized half breeds and fake Jews. The north was also more prosperous and cosmopolitan.. well-watered and fertile.

 

[Thief]

Jesus didn't condemn ALL Pharisees.. just those he thought were hypocrites.. Jesus was himself a Pharisee.

Part of the problem was that the Judeans hated the people in the north.. in Galilee and Samaria (Israel) and considered them Hellenized half breeds and fake Jews. The north was also more prosperous and cosmopolitan.. well-watered and fertile.

who drug Him to the Romans?

 

[Desert Snake]

Jesus didn't condemn ALL Pharisees.. just those he thought were hypocrites.. Jesus was himself a Pharisee.

Part of the problem was that the Judeans hated the people in the north.. in Galilee and Samaria (Israel) and considered them Hellenized half breeds and fake Jews. The north was also more prosperous and cosmopolitan.. well-watered and fertile.

Jesus was of Judah.

 

[Desert Snake]

Jesus lived and died a Jew.. What do you mean? What did the Rabbis say? You do know there was no Rabbinic Judaism until AFTER the destruction of the Temple.

Jesus religion isn't linear from modern judaism, and although to a jewish religion that was extant at the time of Jesus, in Israel, it isn't linear by religion inference 'judaism', in part because of Rabbinical codification of religious belief.

In other words, modern Judaism does not lend to a linear Jesus religion. So, you're really just being vague.

Jesus was a Jew , means that He was of Juda, and the religious format is Judaic.

 

[sooda]

Jesus was of Judah.

Jesus spent his mission in the north preaching to the "lost tribes".. and he was safe from the Sanhedrin there.. Herod Antipas was mostly unconcerned about Jesus. although Jesus referred to him as "the fox".

 

[sooda]

Jesus religion isn't linear from modern judaism, and whether or not linear to a jewish religion that was extant at the time of Jesus, in Israel, or not, it isn't linear by religion inference 'judaism', in part because of Rabbinical codification of religious belief.

In other words, modern Judaism does not lend to a linear Jesus religion. So, you're really just being vague.

Jesus was a Jew , means that He was of Juda, and the religious format is Judaic.

I don't know what you mean by linear Judaism..

Nazareth means ” Protected Place “, but, Nazareth was despised by the Jews because Roman army garrison was located there.

Moreover , the people of Nazareth had an attitude of independence that most of the Jews despised.

 

[Desert Snake]

I don't know what you mean by linear Judaism..

Nazareth means ” Protected Place “, but, Nazareth was despised by the Jews because Roman army garrison was located there.

Moreover , the people of Nazareth had an attitude of independence that most of the Jews despised.

Great, called Jesus of Nazareth, and it makes sense. However, Jesus was of Juda, meaning there is tribal and religious affiliation with Juda, [presumably.

It does make sense as noted, I interpret 'name of people, and holy city' as

• Judah
• Yehudi

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No one has disagreed with that, so either everyone agrees, or, they can't think of a better explanation.