muhammad_isa
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Mmm .. I'm sure many people thought that going to the moon was "out of the question" too.
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What we think we become.
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Audie
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Audie
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" Not an animal" is pure fantasyAgree to disagree
No, homo sapiens is a species of animal, so no belief is needed.
Nor is it true if Jim thinks he is a wolf that he is acctually a wolf. He doesn't become a wolf, he becomes Jim with a delusion.
So this is why members of the KKK and ISIS justify their crimas against other humans, they think it, they believe it, they act on it. And they don't sit back and reflect on reality, nor whether their beliefs are consistent with reality. The question follows: why do I need these illusions?
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Krishnamurti talked about freedom in a similar way. Freedom comes to a person when they can recognize their illusions. The illusions are not the problem, it is the person unwilling to acknowledge what the illusion is, and then has no control over them. The self becomes lost as an agent for ideas and illusions, and is powerless to become free of them.
dybmh
ויהי מבדיל בין מים למים
I think there's some truth to this, but, imo it's not true to assume that our animalistic attributes are bad and should be suppressed. The animal attibutes are also spiritual and can be directed towards a divine purpose.
Gargovic Malkav
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It may be wise to remember though, that the definition of human and/or animal may be broader than just what biological science makes of it.
Gargovic Malkav
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This reminds me of what I saw in South Africa.
In our holiday home, all kinds of critters regularly visited us because they knew we were a reliable source of food.
There were warthogs, kudus, impalas, wildebeests and zebras.
What I found fascinating to see was how the warthogs were the most greedy of all.
Sometimes they were so greedy, they abandoned their own stash of food so they would try to steal it from others to get more.
If they did, they only successfully did so from the kudus or impalas though, because they were the most timid of all.
They rarely messed with the wildebeests and zebras, because they fight back.
When one hog was cheeky enough to try it anyway, it was cool to see how the zebra or wildebeest always starts with a "warning kick".
This was always enough to discourage the hog to leave them alone, even though I could tell they're capable of kicking much harder if they wanted to.
I'd like to be a 6 ft chicken.
I prefer it to being a mineral or a vegetable.
Ah! You've graduated to the animal world! Congratulations!
Eh, just visit my house! You're safe over here.
Secret Chief
Vetted Member
I'm more gullible.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
That will throw you off course for awhile. Those stinkers!
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Apparently these guys are on your side.Agree to disagree
"I'm no ape, I'm human"!
stvdv
Veteran Member
That indeed has been my observation tooNon-humans [ animals? ] are often superior to humans in their behaviour.
So, they do it double good. Not even accountable for their actions, yet acing the "tests" much better than many humans
"Naturals" they say if humans do it
In the case of animals this applies perfect
Hence some claim "animals are my Teachers"
Also some people start looking like their pets or vice versa maybe (in the case of some pitbull owners) I have seen (I just Googled...nice to see that Science backs me up on this)
Dogs look like their owners – it’s a scientific fact
That indeed has been my observation too
So, they do it double good. Not even accountable for their actions, yet acing the "tests" much better than many humans
"Naturals" they say if humans do it
In the case of animals this applies perfect
Hence some claim "animals are my Teachers"
Also some people start looking like their pets or vice versa maybe (in the case of some pitbull owners) I have seen (I just Googled...nice to see that Science backs me up on this)
Dogs look like their owners – it’s a scientific fact
I have three dogs that look vastly different... (100lb Pyrenees/Newfoundland mix,160 l Neapolitan Mastiff/lab mix, 35 lb brown mutt with huge pointy ears that we have no idea on the ancestry, but looks like a combo between a coyote/husky)
Does that mean I have multiple personalities?
I have three dogs that look vastly different... (100lb Pyrenees/Newfoundland mix,160 l Neapolitan Mastiff/lab mix, 35 lb brown mutt with huge pointy ears that we have no idea on the ancestry, but looks like a combo between a coyote/husky)
Does that mean I have multiple personalities?
I heard a funny story today.
A friend adopted an ex circus dog. Soon after the dog moved in it was invited to a dog party. There were around 30 dogs and lots of activities for them, some with prizes.
There was a row of stakes the dogs had to weave in and out between. My friends dog was last to go. Guided to the start the dog promptly stood in its hind legs and weaved in and out without missing one all standing up on his back legs
Although everyone thought it was fantastic the dog was disqualified, the rules say all 4 legs should be used.
Bird123
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I can not agree. One is a Spiritual being regardless of any beliefs.
It's about reality. If I step off a High-Rise building, it doesn't matter what I believe or think, I'm going to fall.
Animals are Spiritual beings as well so even if you think you are an animal, you might alter some of those choices in life but nothing has really changed.
That's what I see. It's very clear!!
stvdv
Veteran Member
YESI have three dogs that look vastly different... (100lb Pyrenees/Newfoundland mix,160 l Neapolitan Mastiff/lab mix, 35 lb brown mutt with huge pointy ears that we have no idea on the ancestry, but looks like a combo between a coyote/husky)
Does that mean I have multiple personalities?
The Science says "dog looks like owner"
Dogs are faithful and loyal, more than most humans
Probably this only applies if there is a monogamous relationship. 1 owner + 1 dog