What will be an atheist's answer ?

[chinu]

you should how to help improve their worldly circumstances.

Believe in God, blah blah blah is same old medicine that I am presenting in a new packing. There's no other solution.

 

[Niatero]

Believe in God, blah blah blah is same old medicine that I am presenting in a new packing. There's no other solution.

Medicine for what? Solution for what? I thought you were saying that everyone already believes in God, so we already have the medicine and the solution. What disease is it curing, and what problem is it solving? Wait. Is this about The Seven-Per-Cent Solution?

 

[chinu]

Still? Even despite being told that is not what it means?

Please re-read.
I said: To me.

 

[chinu]

Medicine for what? Solution for what? I thought you were saying that everyone already believes in God, so we already have the medicine and the solution. What disease is it curing, and what problem is it solving?

Medicine is of no use until take regularly, and until the disease is 100% cured.

 

[SalixIncendium]

Please re-read.
I said: To me.

Fair enough.

 

[Niatero]

Medicine is of no use until take regularly, and until the disease is 100% cured.

No further questions, your honor.

 

[Audie]

Both theist and atheist were the victim of poverty in life. Somebody asked:

Hey theist why are you sad ?
Theist's answer: Sad because God has not provided me enough money in my life.

Hey atheist are you also sad because God has not given you enough money in your life ? or its your own faliure ? or something else ?
What will be an atheist's answer ?

This one says it's a dumb question.

 

[Stevicus]

I think that does happen sometimes, don't you?

Yes.

 

[sayak83]

Dear sayka83, you are talking about the person/theist who is on the higher stage of devotion. But, there are people/theists who are on the lower stages of devotion. And this doesn't mean that they aren't theists.

But I think it also shows that showering devotees with material pleasures is not likely to be what God would be doing (lowers spirits maybe).

 

[F1fan]

Both theist and atheist were the victim of poverty in life. Somebody asked:

Hey theist why are you sad ?
Theist's answer: Sad because God has not provided me enough money in my life.

That's bad luck. God must not like these humans. And being perfect God must have a good reason, so let that condemnation sink in to your attitude about the self.

Hey atheist are you also sad because God has not given you enough money in your life ?

God??

or its your own faliure ? or something else ?
What will be an atheist's answer ?

Could be a person born into poverty, with few resurces to compete in a highly hierarchial and competitive society, where conservatives often reject efforts to create diversity and equality.

Or it could be disability. Or could be lacking talents or creativity. The atheist tends to be able to assess questions in a broad range of possibilities.

 

[Stevicus]

I have my own defination for hell and heaven.
Heaven: any realm that gives one pleasure.
Hell: any realm that gives one displeasure.

Different people can have different choices. Something which is pleasurable can be dis-pleasurable for another.

Re-union means oneness with something which is away from ANY KIND OF LIFE.

Not all people are interested in re-union, only rare people who find this world dis-pleasurable search for re-union. And yes, re-union is like a heaven for those souls.

Well, that sounds okay in theory. I guess it's one of those "we will wait and see" type of situations. I don't really think in terms of whether the world is pleasurable or dis-pleasurable. I mean, we've all had good times and bad times. But let's just say that I have relatively low expectations, based on what I've observed thus far.

 

[Stevicus]

Past goodness can aslo result in today's happiness.

Bad people are always sad people means -- they will be sad in the coming future.

Perhaps, although it's also possible that sad people are sad because bad things have been done to them by bad people. Even if they're not bad themselves, they can still be sad.

 

[Mock Turtle]

Both theist and atheist were the victim of poverty in life. Somebody asked:

Hey theist why are you sad ?
Theist's answer: Sad because God has not provided me enough money in my life.

Hey atheist are you also sad because God has not given you enough money in your life ? or its your own faliure ? or something else ?
What will be an atheist's answer ?

I own all my failures, even some that I could attribute to others (and rightfully so), given that it is less painful than hanging on to any. And hence I have nothing to complain about to a God or any mythical ones - possibly these being the same.

 

[Altfish]

Okay then from whom you are demanding ?

I'm asking, not demanding, that my elected officials act.

 

[Nakosis]

It is possible that a successful person can be sad person at the same time. Still he/she inspires ?

People need to learn to control their own happiness.

 

[Clizby Wampuscat]

Sadness is punishment, poverty CAN BE the reason, but not always.

So god uses poverty to punish people. Got it.

 

[chinu]

But I think it also shows that showering devotees with material pleasures is not likely to be what God would be doing (lowers spirits maybe).

Dear sayka83, there's a big difference between material-pleasure and a reasonable-material-requirement. Taking pleasure from material is something that comes after reasonable-requirement.

Empty stomach can NEVER be a devotee of any God. The first thing an empty stomach need is food, devotion comes thereafter.

 

[chinu]

Well, that sounds okay in theory. I guess it's one of those "we will wait and see" type of situations. I don't really think in terms of whether the world is pleasurable or dis-pleasurable. I mean, we've all had good times and bad times. But let's just say that I have relatively low expectations, based on what I've observed thus far.

What do you mean by "low expectation" ? can you please elaborate.

 

[chinu]

Perhaps, although it's also possible that sad people are sad because bad things have been done to them by bad people. Even if they're not bad themselves, they can still be sad.

Sad is reaping the bad harvest sown in the past.

 

[chinu]

I own all my failures, even some that I could attribute to others (and rightfully so), given that it is less painful than hanging on to any. And hence I have nothing to complain about to a God or any mythical ones - possibly these being the same.

How come you have so strong will ?