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What would you have done?

Jimmy

King Phenomenon
If you were Israel’s Prime Minister how would you have handled things differently in response to the Hamas attack on October 7th?
 

Harel13

Am Yisrael Chai
Staff member
Premium Member
I would have sent in the IDF to weed out Hamas, a much better alternative to randomly killing thousands of innocent civilians i tbink

The route Israel has taken makes them no better than Hamas
Do you have any practical strategy in mind?
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
Do you have any practical strategy in mind?

You mean like bomb the **** out of innocence people. Nope, the only practical strategy i can imagine is the one i stated. So are you saying the IDF are not capable?
 

Harel13

Am Yisrael Chai
Staff member
Premium Member
You mean like bomb the **** out of innocence people. Nope, the only practical strategy i can imagine is the one i stated. So are you saying the IDF are not capable?
First of all, the question posed in the OP was what would you do whether you were Israel's PM. That means that all you have right now is the IDF and possibly some US forces, though I don't exactly know whether they may be commanded in the same way. So the question is, what practical strategy do you have in mind given the capabilities and limitations of the IDF?

Let me put it another way: how do you "weed out" some 30-40k Hamas agents (with thousands more inactive supporters) from a densely populated urban area, while simultaneously defending your country from airstrikes from two borders? Do you have soldiers knocking on every door in Gaza and politely asking whether there are Hamas agents there?

Here is what the IDF has been doing so far: Pushing Gaza civilians to move to the southern part of the strip. Hamas has blocked these efforts but several hundreds of thousands still managed to evacuate. Then the IDF started bombing northern Gaza, attempting as much as possible to concentrate their strikes on particularly locations they knew, per military intelligence, to be housing Hamas cells, weapons and supplies. As in every war ever, some of the casualties included civilians, people who did not or could not evacuate. We've now reached the second phase, which is the ground assault.

Given all of this, what would have been your practical strategy to "weed out" Hamas, which you have hinted to being superior to the IDF's strategy? In case you might be wondering, I am honestly curious and not being sarcastic. Though I served in the army, I'm not a military strategist.
 

Jimmy

King Phenomenon
I would have sent in the IDF to weed out Hamas, a much better alternative to randomly killing thousands of innocent civilians i tbink

The route Israel has taken makes them no better than Hamas
I hear ya but this sounds ineffective. Care to elaborate?
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
I hear ya but this sounds ineffective. Care to elaborate?

The IDF are very well armed, equipped and trained thanks to the US. I also cannot believe that they don't have intelligence operatives in Gaza.

Based on intelligence, teams of IDF can go into gaza and round up many Hamas.

To me this is a far better response than indiscriminate killing of innocents.
 

Jimmy

King Phenomenon
The IDF are very well armed, equipped and trained thanks to the US. I also cannot believe that they don't have intelligence operatives in Gaza.

Based on intelligence, teams of IDF can go into gaza and round up many Hamas.

To me this is a far better response than indiscriminate killing of innocents.
Wonder why they didn’t do something that sounds so good
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
First of all, the question posed in the OP was what would you do whether you were Israel's PM. That means that all you have right now is the IDF and possibly some US forces, though I don't exactly know whether they may be commanded in the same way. So the question is, what practical strategy do you have in mind given the capabilities and limitations of the IDF?

Let me put it another way: how do you "weed out" some 30-40k Hamas agents (with thousands more inactive supporters) from a densely populated urban area, while simultaneously defending your country from airstrikes from two borders? Do you have soldiers knocking on every door in Gaza and politely asking whether there are Hamas agents there?

Here is what the IDF has been doing so far: Pushing Gaza civilians to move to the southern part of the strip. Hamas has blocked these efforts but several hundreds of thousands still managed to evacuate. Then the IDF started bombing northern Gaza, attempting as much as possible to concentrate their strikes on particularly locations they knew, per military intelligence, to be housing Hamas cells, weapons and supplies. As in every war ever, some of the casualties included civilians, people who did not or could not evacuate. We've now reached the second phase, which is the ground assault.

Given all of this, what would have been your practical strategy to "weed out" Hamas, which you have hinted to being superior to the IDF's strategy? In case you might be wondering, I am honestly curious and not being sarcastic. Though I served in the army, I'm not a military strategist.

The question was what would i do I've given answer,
I have not hinted any such thing.
 

Bthoth

Well-Known Member
If you were Israel’s Prime Minister how would you have handled things differently in response to the Hamas attack on October 7th?
First.... Find a way to earn the trust of the palestinians, that they will be protected from .....?!?!

2.... Communicate with the west bank, hire many of them with some type of guarantee, that they will be supported and never be attacked again.

3... teach israelis, that there is no impunity for attacking civilians.

10/7...... was not a random attack born out of a vacuum of just peace............. address those issues, be firm with those grievances before retaliation. The amount of money wasted on violent methodology has been proven to NOT WORK.


I have written what will reduce the tensions and divide within the region but some folk even here did not like what I wrote and how I conveyed.

Israel could blow up another state/country on its borders and will still never have peace until the population is taught that force is not an option.

Israel will learn how to earn respect by their actions or continue with creating more enemies.

Hamas, ISIL, hezbollah......... etc....etc.....etc.... are based on what israel as done.

Own it!

FIX it!

Choose to do what is right before expecting respect.
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
If that were the case don’t you think other countries would in

If that was Israel’s objective don’t you think they could easily have already achieved that if they wanted to?

Not with the world watching, now though is a good opportunity
 

Jimmy

King Phenomenon
First.... Find a way to earn the trust of the palestinians, that they will be protected from .....?!?!

2.... Communicate with the west bank, hire many of them with some type of guarantee, that they will be supported and never be attacked again.

3... teach israelis, that there is no impunity for attacking civilians.

10/7...... was not a random attack born out of a vacuum of just peace............. address those issues, be firm with those grievances before retaliation. The amount of money wasted on violent methodology has been proven to NOT WORK.


I have written what will reduce the tensions and divide within the region but some folk even here did not like what I wrote and how I conveyed.

Israel could blow up another state/country on its borders and will still never have peace until the population is taught that force is not an option.

Israel will learn how to earn respect by their actions or continue with creating more enemies.

Hamas, ISIL, hezbollah......... etc....etc.....etc.... are based on what israel as done.

Own it!

FIX it!

Choose to do what is right before expecting respect.
What you said is a long-term solution. What I was looking for was an alternative immediate response for the Oct 7th attack.
 

Jimmy

King Phenomenon
The IDF are very well armed, equipped and trained thanks to the US. I also cannot believe that they don't have intelligence operatives in Gaza.

Based on intelligence, teams of IDF can go into gaza and round up many Hamas.

To me this is a far better response than indiscriminate killing of innocents.
Any military should be well armed, equipped and trained no?
 
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