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What's the difference between Al Qaeda and Hamas ?

ronki23

Well-Known Member
Trump and Boris Johnson don't get along, but why?

Apparently the Taliban 'condemned' the Kabul Airport attack by IS-KP but they were the ones who released them from prison.

Taliban said they were willing to give up Osama but in reality bin Laden married Mullah Omar's daughter and Mullah Omar married bin Laden's daughter
 

Rival

Diex Aie
Staff member
Premium Member
Trump and Boris Johnson don't get along, but why?
I think it's pretty much that BoJo is a political opportunist who allies with what's popular at the time. Trump wasn't popular in the UK.
 
@Kooky @Augustus @Lyndon

Please look at Al Qaeda's manifesto




Al Qaeda hates UAE, Saudi Arabia, Qatar and Bahrain for being friendly with Jewish America. Even the Saudi Royal Family is accused of being Jewish (actually, weren't the founding tribes of Saudi Arabia Jewish)?

The Jewish roots of the Saudi Royal Family


Hamas has a goal of 'liberating' Palestine, it is an Islamist nationalist movement, not a pan-Islamic movement.

Al-Qaeda originally hated Saudi because they invited the Americans into Saudi after the invasion of Kuwait. They are also loose affiliation of groups opposed to the 'Zionist-Crusader Alliance' with a goal or ridding Muslim lands of their influence.

Just because 2 groups share some rough similarities doesn't make them 'the same'.

We understand that the US Republican Party, the British Conservative Party and the German Christian-Democrats are not the same thing despite having Western centre-right ideologies.
 

Lyndon

"Peace is the answer" quote: GOD, 2014
Premium Member
The centre right party in America is the Democrats, the republicans are far right like Maria Le Pen in France, more of a pseudo fascist in today's incarnation
 

exchemist

Veteran Member
Search me. But evidently you know a
Officially Al Qaeda and Daesh don't get along . Why ?
Search me.
Evidently you know quite a bit about these groups. Why, then, did you NOT know that Hamas and Al Qaeda have quite different goals?
 

Lyndon

"Peace is the answer" quote: GOD, 2014
Premium Member
There's a long history of bashing Palestinians, and ignoring all the crimes of the Western powers, especially Israel.
 

ronki23

Well-Known Member
Search me. But evidently you know a

Search me.
Evidently you know quite a bit about these groups. Why, then, did you NOT know that Hamas and Al Qaeda have quite different goals?

Because, as I posted before, Al Qaeda has been complaining about Western support for Israel: in their manifesto they even used the word Jewry
 

ronki23

Well-Known Member
There's a long history of bashing Palestinians, and ignoring all the crimes of the Western powers, especially Israel.

Israel isn't perfect but if the Ashkenazi Jews stayed in Europe they would have been killed.

The Mizrahi (Arab) Jews on the other hand were living in countries like Tunisia, Algeria, Morocco, and Iraq for hundreds if not thousands of years.

Because of the Ashkenazi the Mizrahi were kicked out.
 

ronki23

Well-Known Member
@Aupmanyav do you know Osama's view on Hinduism? I do know he called Israel-USA-India a Zionist and crusader alliance but I don't know what he thought about Hindus (and Sikhs, Jains and Buddhists)?

Not just Osama but did Al Zawahiri or the ISIS leaders say anything about the Indic religions? I know we in India struck Balakot because of the Taliban though

Modi is a great Prime Minister.
 

sun rise

The world is on fire
Premium Member
No but that's not what I'm saying; a government can be made up of terrorists, a la the Taliban, and therefore be a terrorist organisation that also happens to be a government. One could include the USSR in this category.

To repeat myself:

** Section 140(d)(2) of the Foreign Relations Authorization Act, Fiscal Years 1988 and 1989 defines "terrorism" as "premeditated, politically motivated violence perpetrated against noncombatant targets by subnational groups or clandestine agents

Foreign Relations Authorization Act, Fiscal Years 1988 and 1989: Terrorism Definition
 

Aupmanyav

Be your own guru
Not just Osama but did Al Zawahiri or the ISIS leaders say anything about the Indic religions? I know we in India struck Balakot because of the Taliban though.
India bombed Balakot because of Azhar Mohamud's Jaish-e-Mohammad. IS established 'Khorasan Caliphate' covering Central Asia, Afghanistan, Pakistan and parts of India. It is that which bombed Kabul airport recently. All terrorist organizations want Kashmir and India (even Tibet, Srilanka, parts of Russia - Chechnya and China - Xinjiang, Azerbaijan, Armenia, Georgia too) to be under Muslim rule.

khorasan.jpg
 
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exchemist

Veteran Member
Because, as I posted before, Al Qaeda has been complaining about Western support for Israel: in their manifesto they even used the word Jewry
That does not explain why you are, so you claim, ignorant of the totally different goals of these groups.
 

ronki23

Well-Known Member
India bombed Balakot because of Azhar Mohamud's Jaish-e-Mohammad. IS established 'Khorasan Caliphate' covering Central Asia, Afghanistan, Pakistan and parts of India. It is that which bombed Kabul airport recently. All terrorist organizations want Kashmir and India (even Tibet, Srilanka, parts of Russia - Chechnya and China - Xinjiang, Azerbaijan, Armenia, Georgia too) to be under Muslim rule.

khorasan.jpg

I didn't know Jaish-e-Mohammed was different to Lakshar-e-Taiba
 

ronki23

Well-Known Member
How did they know the identities of the 19 hijackers on 9/11 ? Because they didn't look at the manifesto until after the attack so how did they know which of the passengers hijacked the planes ?
 

Kooky

Freedom from Sanity
How did they know the identities of the 19 hijackers on 9/11 ? Because they didn't look at the manifesto until after the attack so how did they know which of the passengers hijacked the planes ?
Is this a genuine question or are you priming us for another political rant?
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
Both of them are Sunni Muslim

Both murder Jews

As far as I see it: Al Qaeda is the main body while Hamas is the Palestinian wing, Laksh-e-Taiba the Pakistani wing, Al Shabaab is the Somali wing and Boko Haram the Nigerian wing.

I don't see any difference in their ideology
I see different,Alqaeda supported by West in Afganistan .to fight Soviet Union.
How about who murder Muslims or Arabs,or your humanity value depend/bias on race and religion ?
If there will be justice about kill innocents ? I can say Israeli army called most racist and terrorist army in world
 

England my lionheart

Rockerjahili Rebel
Premium Member
I see different,Alqaeda supported by West in Afganistan .to fight Soviet Union.
How about who murder Muslims or Arabs,or your humanity value depend/bias on race and religion ?
If there will be justice about kill innocents ? I can say Israeli army called most racist and terrorist army in world

Is this despite the fact that most of the Middle East hates and would destroy Israel if they could?.
 
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