What's with the protestors tearing down and defacing all statues

[whirlingmerc]

The Aminian statue regarding justice for all people???

The general who led the union to victory in the civil war?

Fancisis Scott Key?

Statues of Saints?

What's the issue?

From George Washington to Ulysses S. Grant: Statues, monuments vandalized extend beyond Confederates amid Black Lives Matter protests

 

[lostwanderingsoul]

People have gone crazy. Maybe it is the virus. Next they will have to take Washington's picture off our money and stop singing the national anthem.

 

[Twilight Hue]

The Aminian statue regarding justice for all people???

The general who led the union to victory in the civil war?

Fancisis Scott Key?

Statues of Saints?

What's the issue?

From George Washington to Ulysses S. Grant: Statues, monuments vandalized extend beyond Confederates amid Black Lives Matter protests

They like to think they're changing the world by doing criminal acts like defacing public property and the like.

Great bunch of lads and lasses aren't they?

 

[Nakosis]

The Aminian statue regarding justice for all people???

The general who led the union to victory in the civil war?

Fancisis Scott Key?

Statues of Saints?

What's the issue?

From George Washington to Ulysses S. Grant: Statues, monuments vandalized extend beyond Confederates amid Black Lives Matter protests

There's no standard fo morality anymore. Not saying there should be but how do you judge people if there is no standard?

 

[Nova2216]

Sad to say our State, County and City representatives are responsible for these desecration s continuing.

Give them an inch they will take a mile.

 

[beenherebeforeagain]

just as the statues are symbolic of the history of the country, pulling them down is symbolic of the rejection of the racism and oppression that occurred during that time...and in the centuries since.

 

[Stevicus]

The Aminian statue regarding justice for all people???

The general who led the union to victory in the civil war?

Fancisis Scott Key?

Statues of Saints?

What's the issue?

From George Washington to Ulysses S. Grant: Statues, monuments vandalized extend beyond Confederates amid Black Lives Matter protests

It's better to have people focus on statues rather than continue criticizing the police and the government. Someone managed to pull it off and successfully distracted the public from the main issue at hand.

 

[Father Heathen]

When you have mass gatherings, the amount of fringe kooks and morons mixed in increases. When you have crowds in the tends of thousands, it would be imbecilic to believe that they all agree 100% on everything, or that they have control over each other's actions. I think deep down everyone knows and understands this, but because they were indoctrinated to lick boots, they jump at the opportunity to spin, twist, and distort things.

 

[lostwanderingsoul]

There's no standard fo morality anymore. Not saying there should be but how do you judge people if there is no standard?

Yes there is a standard for morality. God's standard. People just ignore it.

 

[beenherebeforeagain]

Better to pull down a statue or two, rather than burning down and driving out an entire community because their skin was dark...

Better to pull down a statue or two, rather than leaving up monuments to people who condoned the ownership of people, who allowed and participated in a system that regularly lynched people for being 'uppity,' even if they weren't...

 

[Father Heathen]

They like to think they're changing the world by doing criminal acts like defacing public property and the like.

Great bunch of lads and lasses aren't they?

As has already been explained; they're opportunists and don't give a **** about "changing the world". People who commit acts of injustice obviously don't care for the cause of justice, nor about tarnished the image of such a cause.

What if I showed up a Trump rally, and with the thickest, dopiest southern accent I could muster, loudly bellowed "I like to **** livestock! Get 'r dooooone!" within earshot of the media, would the general public be right to conclude that the MAGA crowd have a thing for farm animals?

 

[Nakosis]

Yes there is a standard for morality. God's standard. People just ignore it.

Which God? Though maybe it doesn't matter. Can't say I've found any God who's standards have greatly impressed me.

 

[Revoltingest]

What if I showed up a Trump rally, and with the thickest, dopiest southern accent I could muster, loudly bellowed "I like to **** livestock! Get 'r dooooone!" within earshot of the media, would the general public be right to conclude that the MAGA crowd have a thing for farm animals?

The left would tend to conclude that.
Their claims of "agent provocateurs" only blossom
when misbehavior appears to be on their side.

It's important to not judge the many by crimes of the few.

 

[lostwanderingsoul]

Which God? Though maybe it doesn't matter. Can't say I've found any God who's standards have greatly impressed me.

So you think it is OK to steal and kill and commit immorality?

 

[Nakosis]

So you think it is OK to steal and kill

For someone's survival or the survival of another, sure. Like when My parents abandoned me, I had to steal to eat.
If I had to kill to save my life or someone else's life.

and commit immorality?

Depends on which immorality. Can't really blame someone fighting for survival.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

The left would tend to conclude that.
Their claims "agent provocateurs" only blossoms
when misbehavior appears to be on their side.

It's important to not judge the many by crimes of the few.

Again you paint with a broad brush while bathing in false equivalency.

Yes, there are provocateurs in both camps and, yes, they are contemptible, but to tear down memorials to the slave-holder society is not equivalent to promoting racist and fascist memes, and acknowledging the anger and frustration of the exploited is not equivalent to white-washing neo-nazis and neo-confederate wannabes with apologetic drivel about there being good on both sides.

 

[Revoltingest]

Again you paint with a broad brush while bathing in false equivalency.

The accusation of my "bathing"....that is a first for RF.

But there is one broad brush stroke I'd like to make....
The left generally doesn't know the meaning of their oft used barb, "false equivalency".
When they dislike any comparison, they feign claims of having been made equal.
Not so in this case, bruderherz.
This is the "false false equivalency" fallacy.
My posts in this thread might correct your misimpression....
Should we add plaques to statues of slave owners?

Yes, there are provocateurs in both camps and, yes, they are contemptible, but to tear down memorials to the slave-holder society is not equivalent to promoting racist and fascist memes, and acknowledging the anger and frustration of the exploited is not equivalent to white-washing neo-nazis and neo-confederate wannabes with apologetic drivel about there being good on both sides.

This seems denial that there are good people on both sides of an issue.
It smacks of sanctimonious hubris to believe that one's own tribe is the
sole advocate for truth, justice, & the Ameristanian way.
Anger & frustration should be no excuse to sanitize & silence history, or
destroy property. That's talibanesque intolerance.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

Anger & frustration should be no excuse to sanitize & silence history, or
destroy property. That's Talibanesque intolerance.

You can take the hyperbole and shove it.
Telling folks to remove the Confederate flags and monuments is not an attempt to "sanitize & silence history." Quite the contrary. It's an attempt to reclaim it.

 

[Revoltingest]

You can take the hyperbole and shove it.

That's really inappropriate language.
I recommend to stop seeking hostile disagreement.
Discuss the issues.
So what if we disagree about some things....meh.

 

[lewisnotmiller]

When you have mass gatherings, the amount of fringe kooks and morons mixed in increases. When you have crowds in the tends of thousands, it would be imbecilic to believe that they all agree 100% on everything, or that they have control over each other's actions. I think deep down everyone knows and understands this, but because they were indoctrinated to lick boots, they jump at the opportunity to spin, twist, and distort things.

I could offer a hundred relevant Pratchett quotes, but I'll just roll with...

It was the usual Ankh-Morpork mob in times of crisis; half of them were here to complain, a quarter of them were here to watch the other half, and the remainder were here to rob, importune or sell hot dogs to the rest.

- Guards, Guards

Err...tagging @ChristineM just cos.