whats your beef with brexit?

[Terrywoodenpic]

I agree about education but not lifestyle choice,peer pressure has a lot to do with that,as for education we should spend more effort on our young to get them through an education system that's fair and not demographic.

We get well educated and motivated skilled people from every demographic and from every school.
We need to tackle the downward peer pressure situation. It is not inevitable.
If children are properly motivated they succeed whatever their situation.

 

[England my lionheart]

We get well educated and motivated skilled people from every demographic and from every school.
We need to tackle the downward peer pressure situation. It is not inevitable.
If children are properly motivated they succeed whatever their situation.

You don't see a north south divide then,well we can motivate them without the EU.

 

[Terrywoodenpic]

You don't see a north south divide then,well we can motivate them without the EU.

There is a north south divide and I have live my life in both, with the last 27 years in the north, though I went to schools in Shopshire and Westmorland. This divide has nothing at all to do with brexit or the EU.
Though the poorer regions will miss the funds allocated by the EU. Our governments have never directed money in that way, into the regions, nor are they likely to. The old regional development funding was a joke, and has no legacy to show for it at all.

The country we find ourselves in has been molded by our own governments not the EU.

 

[England my lionheart]

There is a north south divide and I have live my life in both, with the last 27 years in the north, though I went to schools in Shopshire and Westmorland. This divide has nothing at all to do with brexit or the EU.
Though the poorer regions will miss the funds allocated by the EU. Our governments have never directed money in that way, into the regions, nor are they likely to. The old regional development funding was a joke, and has no legacy to show for it at all.

The country we find ourselves in has been molded by our own governments not the EU.

I didn't say the eu had anything to do with our education system,its crap whether we're in or out.

We can change the UK but we will never change the eu,waste of time and effort,for the average person theres no benefit to being in.

 

[Terrywoodenpic]

I didn't say the eu had anything to do with our education system,its crap whether we're in or out.

We can change the UK but we will never change the eu,waste of time and effort,for the average person theres no benefit to being in.

i beg to differ. i consider that we have all had massive benefits from being in the EU.
This will become very apparent to everyone if and when we leave.

Our education system while not the best has always produced excellent results for those who "wanted" to make the most of it.
My Grand son earnt a first class honours degree and a masters in linguistics and is now starting the process of studying for the priesthood. His sister has just started at university reading for a law degree, she obtained her A level A*results at a state school in Huddersfield. and had Unconditional offers to study at university. But chose to go for a competitive entry at Leeds university.
The opportunities are there for the taking, if you work for them.

 

[England my lionheart]

i beg to differ. i consider that we have all had massive benefits from being in the EU.
This will become very apparent to everyone if and when we leave.

Our education system while not the best has always produced excellent results for those who "wanted" to make the most of it.
My Grand son earnt a first class honours degree and a masters in linguistics and is now starting the process of studying for the priesthood. His sister has just started at university reading for a law degree, she obtained her A level A*results at a state school in Huddersfield. and had Unconditional offers to study at university. But chose to go for a competitive entry at Leeds university.
The opportunities are there for the taking, if you work for them.

Standard size veg and waste is one thing I wont miss,fruit and veg that's too bendy tastes the same.

Most of my family have been to university,and yes if you put the effort in you can get there but unless your family can support you or at least part support you it leads to a lot of debt.

 

[Terrywoodenpic]

Standard size veg and waste is one thing I wont miss,fruit and veg that's too bendy tastes the same.

Most of my family have been to university,and yes if you put the effort in you can get there but unless your family can support you or at least part support you it leads to a lot of debt.

It leads to a lot of debt for most people. However almost every one in government had their education for free.
No one knows the long term effect of student loans on peoples families, lives and careers.

The standardised sizes and straight fruit and veg, EU regulations were a myth, and never existed.
However many supermarkets would only stock and accept specific sizes and qualities from their suppliers.
This will not change because we are to be outside the EU.

Morrisons sells non standard and ugly stuff now, for those that want it. ( I buy it )

 

[England my lionheart]

It leads to a lot of debt for most people. However almost every one in government had their education for free.
No one knows the long term effect of student loans on peoples families, lives and careers.

The standardised sizes and straight fruit and veg, EU regulations were a myth, and never existed.
However many supermarkets would only stock and accept specific sizes and qualities from their suppliers.
This will not change because we are to be outside the EU.

Morrisons sells non standard and ugly stuff now, for those that want it. ( I buy it )

I'm just glad we're leaving,soon we'll be expanding our flocks in new Zealand,brexit to me is exciting

 

[Terrywoodenpic]

I'm just glad we're leaving,soon we'll be expanding our flocks in new Zealand,brexit to me is exciting

You can buy New Zealand lamb now as always... when I want frozen that is what I get. I have a leg in the freezer now. it is not a cheap now as it once was, but then nor is anything else.

As the pound weakens by the day every thing is getting more expensive as we near brexit.
The removal of a few tariffs and the imposition of others will hardly change that trend at all.

 

[England my lionheart]

You can buy New Zealand lamb now as always... when I want frozen that is what I get. I have a leg in the freezer now. it is not a cheap now as it once was, but then nor is anything else.

As the pound weakens by the day every thing is getting more expensive as we near brexit.
The removal of a few tariffs and the imposition of others will hardly change that trend at all.

I know we get it here already but not as much as before.

 

[Terrywoodenpic]

I know we get it here already but not as much as before.

In actual fact we do 89% of imported lamb comes from NewZealand and Austraila only 10%comes from the EU including Ireland.

You realy do insist on spreading nonsense
Google....
What might Brexit mean for UK trade in beef and lamb products? - Agriculture and Horticulture Development Board

 

[England my lionheart]

In actual fact we do 89% of imported lamb comes from NewZealand and Austraila only 10%comes from the EU including Ireland.

You realy do insist on spreading nonsense
Google....
What might Brexit mean for UK trade in beef and lamb products? - Agriculture and Horticulture Development Board

I'm not spreading anything,"what might" doesn't mean will.

 

[Terrywoodenpic]

I'm not spreading anything,"what might" doesn't mean will.

The crux of that article is what is happening now. The "what might" in the tiltle seems to be no more than a "come on" or a logical but undefined next step....

 

[Notanumber]

Does anyone honestly believe that JC & JM want to stay in the EU?

 

[Altfish]

Does anyone honestly believe that JC & JM want to stay in the EU?

I don't.

 

[Notanumber]

The US have just shown us the future with the Bombardier ruling.

What is the EU doing about it being as we are still members?

 

[ImmortalFlame]

We can change the UK but we will never change the eu,waste of time and effort,for the average person theres no benefit to being in.

You mean, aside from the countless institutions, buildings and jobs created in part or entirely by EU funding, the freedom to travel and work throughout the EU and the exchange of expertise that allowed and encouraged experts in countless fields from the EU to live and work in the UK, the massive overall benefit to the UK economy from EU trade deals, the EU regulations that kept major organisations and big businesses from short-changing British consumers under the nose of a marginally Conservative government who are largely indifferent to the notion of consumer rights, the fact that it maintained peace throughout Europe since world war 2 (which was its original intention), and the rights and protections afforded by the European Convention of Human Rights?

Yeah, what did Europe ever do for us?

 

[England my lionheart]

They

You mean, aside from the countless institutions, buildings and jobs created in part or entirely by EU funding, the freedom to travel and work throughout the EU and the exchange of expertise that allowed and encouraged experts in countless fields from the EU to live and work in the UK, the massive overall benefit to the UK economy from EU trade deals, the EU regulations that kept major organisations and big businesses from short-changing British consumers under the nose of a marginally Conservative government who are largely indifferent to the notion of consumer rights, the fact that it maintained peace throughout Europe since world war 2 (which was its original intention), and the rights and protections afforded by the European Convention of Human Rights?

Yeah, what did Europe ever do for us?[/QUOTE

Nothing we cant do ourselves

 

[ImmortalFlame]

Nothing we cant do ourselves

And that sentence just about perfectly encapsulates the delusional attitude of the Brexit camp.

 

[England my lionheart]

And that sentence just about perfectly encapsulates the delusional attitude of the Brexit camp.

Well the stay camp I'd say they were but it doesn't matter as brexit won the vote,like it or not.