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whats your beef with brexit?

ImmortalFlame

Woke gremlin
Well the stay camp I'd say they were but it doesn't matter as brexit won the vote,like it or not.
Another perfect encapsulation of the Brexit camp: "like it or not, we won". Pretty much the intellectual equivalent of sticking your fingers in your ears and blowing a raspberry.

All your posts have done is demonstrate something very clearly: that a lot of people who voted for Brexit were extremely ignorant. A wrong decision voted on out of sheer ignorance by a majority of people is still a wrong decision voted on out of sheer ignorance.
 

England my lionheart

Rockerjahili Rebel
Premium Member
Another perfect encapsulation of the Brexit camp: "like it or not, we won". Pretty much the intellectual equivalent of sticking your fingers in your ears and blowing a raspberry.

All your posts have done is demonstrate something very clearly: that a lot of people who voted for Brexit were extremely ignorant. A wrong decision voted on out of sheer ignorance by a majority of people is still a wrong decision voted on out of sheer ignorance.

Your post demonstrates a child throwing its teddy out of the playpen because it can't get its own way,nobody voted out of sheer ignorance,this idea that people who voted out are ignorant by the remain camp is quite sad.
 

ImmortalFlame

Woke gremlin
Your post demonstrates a child throwing its teddy out of the playpen because it can't get its own way,nobody voted out of sheer ignorance,this idea that people who voted out are ignorant by the remain camp is quite sad.
You literally just demonstrated it by saying that the EU did nothing for "ordinary people", and your response to me pointing out all the things it did do was to say "we could do that ourselves".

That's demonstrably ignorant.
 

England my lionheart

Rockerjahili Rebel
Premium Member
You literally just demonstrated it by saying that the EU did nothing for "ordinary people", and your response to me pointing out all the things it did do was to say "we could do that ourselves".

That's demonstrably ignorant.

That's not ignorant,its more ignorant to try to change a democratic vote by remain talking bollocks..
 

The Emperor of Mankind

Currently the galaxy's spookiest paraplegic
That's not ignorant,its more ignorant to try to change a democratic vote by remain talking bollocks..

Yeah dude, it is pretty ignorant. For starters, your statement of "nothing we can't do ourselves" is a tacit admission that we weren't doing these things for ourselves before we joined the EU - wouldn't be doing it without them. Secondly, ImmortalFlame just proved you were wrong and you're not facing up to the facts. That's ignorant. Thirdly, your claim has a pretty big conditional in there: "can't".

"Nothing we can't do for ourselves."

That isn't saying we will or that we're likely to.

You also have yet to demonstrate how the vote was 'democratic' in light of the thousands of people who were disenfranchised - most likely to give the Leave campaign as much as possible; as well as the fact a sitting MP who supported Remain was murdered for her political views by Quitlers.


Yes Gordon gave it away

He probably did. Your point?
 

ImmortalFlame

Woke gremlin
That's not ignorant,its more ignorant to try to change a democratic vote by remain talking bollocks..
You're right. It's not ignorant for people to make a bad decision. It's more ignorant for people who know what they're talking about to point out ignorance and attempt to alleviate it. Makes perfect sense.
 

England my lionheart

Rockerjahili Rebel
Premium Member
You're right. It's not ignorant for people to make a bad decision. It's more ignorant for people who know what they're talking about to point out ignorance and attempt to alleviate it. Makes perfect sense.

Like closing the stable door after the horse has bolted,makes sense only for the remain who have yet to present some who knows what they're talking about.
 

ImmortalFlame

Woke gremlin
I see it's still going very well this Brexit thing :facepalm:
It's like the whole country got really drunk one night and then woke up the next day and realized they slept with a bear. Without protection. And they can't find their car. And they're in a terrorist training camp in a desert. And then you wonder what the hell you were thinking last night.

Only, it's like waking up on that day every single day.
 

England my lionheart

Rockerjahili Rebel
Premium Member
Yeah dude, it is pretty ignorant. For starters, your statement of "nothing we can't do ourselves" is a tacit admission that we weren't doing these things for ourselves before we joined the EU - wouldn't be doing it without them. Secondly, ImmortalFlame just proved you were wrong and you're not facing up to the facts. That's ignorant. Thirdly, your claim has a pretty big conditional in there: "can't".

We all realise there will be problems but before the EU we managed for hundreds of years,I am facing facts,we're getting out so instead of the constant bickering of a vote long lost that creates even more uncertainty I and others just want to get on with it.

"Nothing we can't do for ourselves."

That isn't saying we will or that we're likely to.

OK "we will"

You also have yet to demonstrate how the vote was 'democratic' in light of the thousands of people who were disenfranchised - most likely to give the Leave campaign as much as possible; as well as the fact a sitting MP who supported Remain was murdered for her political views by Quitlers.

How do you know if they would have even voted,what they would have voted for and one act of a nutcase and associated with the leave is quite discussing.




He probably did. Your point?

Why we've less money
 

The Emperor of Mankind

Currently the galaxy's spookiest paraplegic
Would you believe it, a remainer that has come to his senses - The Brexit Point Even Remainers Are Agreeing With - LBC

"Digby described himself as a "reluctant Brexiteer" and said that what convinced him was the fact leaving the European Union would give power back to elected officials."

Does Digby mean the unelected House of Lords (which has more members in it than the Commons)? Or does he mean the unelected Civil Service? That's most of central government in the UK right there. And what power exactly would these elected officials have returned to them through us leaving the EU?

Oh, and the elected officials we do have are busy trying to rig the system so they can pass laws giving themselves wide-ranging powers without accountability.


Your post demonstrates a child throwing its teddy out of the playpen because it can't get its own way,

I'd bother to refute this using reason, but instead let me put this into words you'll understand more quickly: You won. Now shut up and deliver the Brexit we were promised.


nobody voted out of sheer ignorance,this idea that people who voted out are ignorant by the remain camp is quite sad.
  • The people who voted Leave to get rid of foreigners;
  • The people who couldn't wait to abolish all those EU laws but couldn't name one when asked;
  • The people who voted Leave to 'stick it to the British establishment';
  • The people who voted Leave because the EU is undemocratic, but are fine with UK laws being decided by a central Government which is mostly made up of unelected legislators;
  • The people who said the arguments such as 'taking back control' were racist when used by Scottish independence campaigners, but weren't racist whenLeave voters used them;
  • The people who believed the lie that the EU costs us £350mn a week;
  • The people who claimed negotiating our way out of the EU would be easy;
  • The people who said countries would be queuing round the corner to sign trade deals with us;
  • People who believe that Brussels is some unaccountable body doling out laws to all member states which cannot be questioned;
  • People who don't understand that the EU sets the standard to which member states must align their respective laws;
  • People who believed the EU undermines British sovereignty (even though every member state is by definition a sovereign nation);
  • People who believed the UK's open borders was Brussels' fault as opposed to Westminster's chronic failure to fund and support the Borders Agency;
People voted Leave out of ignorance. Plenty of people voted Leave out of ignorance.
 

England my lionheart

Rockerjahili Rebel
Premium Member
"Digby described himself as a "reluctant Brexiteer" and said that what convinced him was the fact leaving the European Union would give power back to elected officials."

Does Digby mean the unelected House of Lords (which has more members in it than the Commons)? Or does he mean the unelected Civil Service? That's most of central government in the UK right there. And what power exactly would these elected officials have returned to them through us leaving the EU?

Oh, and the elected officials we do have are busy trying to rig the system so they can pass laws giving themselves wide-ranging powers without accountability.




I'd bother to refute this using reason, but instead let me put this into words you'll understand more quickly: You won. Now shut up and deliver the Brexit we were promised.



  • The people who voted Leave to get rid of foreigners;
  • The people who couldn't wait to abolish all those EU laws but couldn't name one when asked;
  • The people who voted Leave to 'stick it to the British establishment';
  • The people who voted Leave because the EU is undemocratic, but are fine with UK laws being decided by a central Government which is mostly made up of unelected legislators;
  • The people who said the arguments such as 'taking back control' were racist when used by Scottish independence campaigners, but weren't racist whenLeave voters used them;
  • The people who believed the lie that the EU costs us £350mn a week;
  • The people who claimed negotiating our way out of the EU would be easy;
  • The people who said countries would be queuing round the corner to sign trade deals with us;
  • People who believe that Brussels is some unaccountable body doling out laws to all member states which cannot be questioned;
  • People who don't understand that the EU sets the standard to which member states must align their respective laws;
  • People who believed the EU undermines British sovereignty (even though every member state is by definition a sovereign nation);
  • People who believed the UK's open borders was Brussels' fault as opposed to Westminster's chronic failure to fund and support the Borders Agency;
People voted Leave out of ignorance. Plenty of people voted Leave out of ignorance.

I disagree lol
 
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