When did you lose your innocence????

[MysticSang'ha]

The world might not always be a friendly place, however we can choose to be friendly regardless of what others choose. We shouldn't let the hate of others define who we are, now should we??

Now is that the definition of innocence? I see it as patience and compassion.

 

[Eliot Wild]

I have never lost my innocence. I'm still as chaste and guileless as a newborn infant, as pristine and pure as the day I was born. Although sometimes I am a bit mischievous just like a puckishly playful child. Perhaps I just need some discipline . . . anyone want to spank my bare bottom?

 

[Kilgore Trout]

Innocent people make easy marks.

 

[joea]

I have never lost my innocence. I'm still as chaste and guileless as a newborn infant, as pristine and pure as the day I was born. Although sometimes I am a bit mischievous just like a puckishly playful child. Perhaps I just need some discipline . . . anyone want to spank my bare bottom?

And that is right...it's all about being "playfulness"....

 

[Meow Mix]

I have never lost my innocence. I'm still as chaste and guileless as a newborn infant, as pristine and pure as the day I was born. Although sometimes I am a bit mischievous just like a puckishly playful child. Perhaps I just need some discipline . . . anyone want to spank my bare bottom?

Just a sec, the nails on this 2x4 aren't properly rusted yet...

 

[joea]

Just a sec, the nails on this 2x4 aren't properly rusted yet...

lol..........

 

[Bird123]

Now is that the definition of innocence? I see it as patience and compassion.

Perhaps it is a method by which we can be as we were before we lost our innocence when we chose to allow the world to define who we are. Before that choice don't we reflect God's influence??

 

[DarkSun]

LOL the only reason we think babies or young children are innocent is because they are not large enough to legitimately hurt us bigger people. The worst that can happen is that we'd get annoyed.

Babies are incredibly self-absorbed beings. This neither "innocent", or "enlightened", but it also is not "evil." It's a survival mechanism with little wisdom or compassion (if any at all) for others. There is no need to idealize OR to demonize the infancy state of mind. It is what it is.

I'd rather demonize it tbh.

 

[joea]

Now is that the definition of innocence? I see it as patience and compassion.

Innocence is the door; through innocence you enter into beauty. The more innocent you become, the more existence becomes beautiful. The more knowledgeable you are, the more and more existence is ugly, because you start functioning from conclusions, you start functioning from knowledge; So innocence is that quality to beauty..

 

[jtartar]

Aren't the very youngest of children great? I believe they have all just come from God's unconditional love. Aren't almost all these youngest children loving, kind, accepting, eager to be around everyone without judging, hating, or manipulating?? Can't you hear them say: WHAT'S YOUR NAME??

When did we all lose our innocence? When did we change? Do you know anyone still like these youngest children? Could you choose to let all the hurt go and return back to being one of the youngest? Isn't it a choice we could all make?? Share your wisdom.

Bird,
Indeed, all young children are lovable and have no prejudices, but because of inherited sin, none are really innocent. Consider how David, and man after God's own heart, stated this concept, Ps 51:5, Rom 5:12, 3:23. All need the Great Ransom Sacrifice that Jesus, The Lamb of God, provided, John 1:29, Matt 20:28, Gal 2:16.
According to the Holy Scriptures a child will receive the same reward as their parents, until he has reached an age of responsibility, that is why a person must learn about God and then teach his children, Deut 6:4-9, 30:19,20, Eph 6:4.
It is very interesting the way you put your statement about young children. Jesus stated that no one would enter The Kingdom of God unless he became like a little child, Matt 18:2-6.
There are people like that today!! They belong to the ONE religion that Paul mentioned at Eph 4:3-6. The problem that people have identifying that religion is: they believe that the one true religion would be loved and accepted. The opposite is true, they will be hated by every nation on earth, Matt 24:9, they would be looked down on and persecuted, 1Cor 1:26-30, 1Tim 3:12, Luke 6:22,23. They would not be a friend of the world, John 15:18-20, James 4:4, 1John 2:15-17. You can identify them by the love they show, John 13:34,35.

 

[angellous_evangellous]

When I found out that Sunstone wasn't a hot chick but a gross old man.

 

[Dezzie]

I don't tihnk I have ever really lost my innocence. I was always a pretty good kid. I did what I was told and usually had respect. I will admit that there were a couple years in my life where I wasn't as respectful. I did hang out in the wrong crowd though, so that's my excuse. I never did bad things with this group of friends, but I did start being kind of rude to my parents. I knew right from wrong and never did drugs and never drank with these friends. I always stayed far away from that stuff. I think I was 13 at the time. I used to judge people when I was friends with these people but the reason I did it was so I wouldn't lose my friends (horrible reason I know). I didn't really have balls back then. I was very shy. One day though, I grew those balls and stopped talking to these people. I tried the best I could to change myself. I try not to judge others. Sometimes it is hard because of the minority... but I try to look at those minorities in a different perspective. A lot of bad things happened in my life to change that part of me. I am trying to be better though... One day at a time!

 

[Bird123]

Bird,
Indeed, all young children are lovable and have no prejudices, but because of inherited sin, none are really innocent. Consider how David, and man after God's own heart, stated this concept, Ps 51:5, Rom 5:12, 3:23. All need the Great Ransom Sacrifice that Jesus, The Lamb of God, provided, John 1:29, Matt 20:28, Gal 2:16.
According to the Holy Scriptures a child will receive the same reward as their parents, until he has reached an age of responsibility, that is why a person must learn about God and then teach his children, Deut 6:4-9, 30:19,20, Eph 6:4.
It is very interesting the way you put your statement about young children. Jesus stated that no one would enter The Kingdom of God unless he became like a little child, Matt 18:2-6.
There are people like that today!! They belong to the ONE religion that Paul mentioned at Eph 4:3-6. The problem that people have identifying that religion is: they believe that the one true religion would be loved and accepted. The opposite is true, they will be hated by every nation on earth, Matt 24:9, they would be looked down on and persecuted, 1Cor 1:26-30, 1Tim 3:12, Luke 6:22,23. They would not be a friend of the world, John 15:18-20, James 4:4, 1John 2:15-17. You can identify them by the love they show, John 13:34,35.

Inherited sin??? Perhaps the only sin committed is when we allow the world to corrupt our view into convincing us to value other than what is really important. In time we will all discover that unconditional love is the only answer. Yes, learning this might just take eternity but what else do we have to do that's more important??

 

[Bird123]

I don't tihnk I have ever really lost my innocence. I was always a pretty good kid. I did what I was told and usually had respect. I will admit that there were a couple years in my life where I wasn't as respectful. I did hang out in the wrong crowd though, so that's my excuse. I never did bad things with this group of friends, but I did start being kind of rude to my parents. I knew right from wrong and never did drugs and never drank with these friends. I always stayed far away from that stuff. I think I was 13 at the time. I used to judge people when I was friends with these people but the reason I did it was so I wouldn't lose my friends (horrible reason I know). I didn't really have balls back then. I was very shy. One day though, I grew those balls and stopped talking to these people. I tried the best I could to change myself. I try not to judge others. Sometimes it is hard because of the minority... but I try to look at those minorities in a different perspective. A lot of bad things happened in my life to change that part of me. I am trying to be better though... One day at a time!

Life is a learning experience for us all. We might not all be taking the same path but we are all on the same road. The adversities and challenges in my life are bringing me wisdom as well.

 

[Midnight Pete]

Loss of innocence is natural result of experience. Unless you were molested as a child or survived some other horrible trauma, you lose your innocence gradually and incrementally. Adolesence and the discovery of sex is probably the biggest nail in the coffin of innocence for most people. Pre-pubescent children are the most innocent for just this reason. Jesus says we we must be like them to enter the Kingdom of Heaven.

 

[Misty]

Loss of innocence is natural result of experience. Unless you were molested as a child or survived some other horrible trauma, you lose your innocence gradually and incrementally. Adolesence and the discovery of sex is probably the biggest nail in the coffin of innocence for most people. Pre-pubescent children are the most innocent for just this reason. Jesus says we we must be like them to enter the Kingdom of Heaven.

Why is the discovery of sex a nail in anyone's coffin? I read all the interesting passages in Lady Chatterly's Lover when I was 10 the book had just come out and some idiots were trying to ban it! Jesus said some very silly things among his more sensible comments!

 

[Shadow Wolf]

We shouldn't let the hate of others define who we are, now should we??

Hatred is learned. Unfortunately, alot of kids are doomed because of the hatred harbored by their parents.

And I wouldn't say discovering sex is a loss of innocence, or even happens during puberty. Plenty of kids sexually explore themselves because they find it feels good. In some cases some kids will mutually explore eachother. And since sex is a basic need, a natural drive, and has been shown to have many positive health benefits (for the mind and body), I wouldn't label it loosing one's innocence.

 

[Misty]

Hatred is learned. Unfortunately, alot of kids are doomed because of the hatred harbored by their parents.

And I wouldn't say discovering sex is a loss of innocence, or even happens during puberty. Plenty of kids sexually explore themselves because they find it feels good. In some cases some kids will mutually explore eachother. And since sex is a basic need, a natural drive, and has been shown to have many positive health benefits (for the mind and body), I wouldn't label it loosing one's innocence.

Like the progeny of the evil Fred Phelps!

 

[Kilgore Trout]

When I found out that Sunstone wasn't a hot chick but a gross old man.

Is there some other kind?

 

[lemo]

The parts that claim that children have no ego, that they are born "enlightened", and that it is society that feeds them ego. The whole narcisistic enchillada.

Being ignorant of the world does not make one virtuous, enlightened or even innocent in any commendable or healthy way, obviously.

Even a passing knowledge of the Buddha's history makes it very obvious that Siddharta himself also thought so, btw...

Everyone is born enlighten. thus the meaning of what Zen calls "sudden enlightenment". Enlighten is your nature, how can you not born with it?. One looses it when the ego develops.