When was hell created?

[satori8]

There's not much mention of a hell in the Old Testament. It seems Hell became a place after Jesus showed up. So when was hell created? Was it created in the beginning? Or was it created when Jesus arrived, to you?

 

[Awoon]

There's not much mention of a hell in the Old Testament. It seems Hell became a place after Jesus showed up. So when was hell created? Was it created in the beginning? Or was it created when Jesus arrived, to you?

The first time any human had a worry . Hell is mental torment.

 

[Shermana]

There's not much mention of a hell in the Old Testament. It seems Hell became a place after Jesus showed up. So when was hell created? Was it created in the beginning? Or was it created when Jesus arrived, to you?

There's reasonable argument that Sheol in the "Old Testament" did in fact refer to an actual place that directly corresponded to the Greek Hades, the "land of shades" and wasn't just some "metaphor for the grave". Reference to an actual fiery place of damnation is in the Dead Sea Scrolls.

 

[dgirl1986]

First you have to ask does it even exist.

 

[satori8]

First you have to ask does it even exist.

Well I don't think it exists. Im just curious what Christians say.

Apparently Jewish people believe in a place called Gehinom which seems like a purgatory or a place of cleansing. Like having dirty clothes and they get clean. Then they go to Gan Eden or a Garden of Eden like place. But then there is a concept of sheol and like she said, it comes across more like Hades, as in myth all people go to Hades, however there were levels of Hades which determined certain rewards or punishments.

 

[Tarheeler]

Well I don't think it exists. Im just curious what Christians say.

Apparently Jewish people believe in a place called Gehinom which seems like a purgatory or a place of cleansing. Like having dirty clothes and they get clean. Then they go to Gan Eden or a Garden of Eden like place. But then there is a concept of sheol and like she said, it comes across more like Hades, as in myth all people go to Hades, however there were levels of Hades which determined certain rewards or punishments.

The afterlife isn't a concrete idea in Judaism. Sheol is the grave; everyone, regardless of how they lived, goes to it. Some Jews believe in a place like purgatory (typically with a maximum stay of 11 months), and some believe in a heaven. Some don't believe in it at all. But the idea of a place of eternal torment isn't really found in Judaism.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

There's reasonable argument that Sheol in the "Old Testament" did in fact refer to an actual place that directly corresponded to the Greek Hades, the "land of shades" and wasn't just some "metaphor for the grave". Reference to an actual fiery place of damnation is in the Dead Sea Scrolls.

The texts of the DDS postdate the Torah by centuries. Sheol has nothing to do with Christian hell. See, for example, Kin, Cult, Land and Afterlife---a Biblical Complex by Brichto,

 

[Sunstone]

There's not much mention of a hell in the Old Testament. It seems Hell became a place after Jesus showed up. So when was hell created? Was it created in the beginning? Or was it created when Jesus arrived, to you?

I've been told the Essenes had a concept of hell, and that Jesus might have derived his notion of hell from them.

 

[Shermana]

The texts of the DDS postdate the Torah by centuries. Sheol has nothing to do with Christian hell. See, for example, Kin, Cult, Land and Afterlife---a Biblical Complex by Brichto,

Yes, the DSS texts which affirm the Fiery place for the evil one are well past the Torah's written date. That's not the issue, though I should have been more clear I was referring to Gin Hinnom separately. The Essenes likely had an idea of Hell that corrolated with what we see there, and the idea of Gin Hinnom purely being just a "valley of burning outside of Jerusalem" is probably wrong too, the concept was likely given a similar name, a place of burning for garbage, and for wicked souls alike.

As I said, the Hebrew Sheol most closely associates with the Greek Hades as a "Land of shades" we see in the Psalms.

The notion that the early Jews did not have an Afterlife or "Hades" equivalent, or that the Sheol = Hades is a "Hellnization", is completely bunk.

 

[Shiranui117]

There's not much mention of a hell in the Old Testament. It seems Hell became a place after Jesus showed up. So when was hell created? Was it created in the beginning? Or was it created when Jesus arrived, to you?

"Hell" as a place does not exist. It exists as a state in the hearts of those who willingly reject God, and experience His love, light, presence and blessings as torture.

So, I suppose we could say that Hell (more properly known as Gehenna, or the Lake of Fire from the Book of Revelation) was created when Satan and his angels rebelled against God and fell from Heaven before the creation of the world.

 

[Shiranui117]

The texts of the DDS postdate the Torah by centuries. Sheol has nothing to do with Christian hell. See, for example, Kin, Cult, Land and Afterlife---a Biblical Complex by Brichto,

IDK how the word "hell" became associated with the Lake of Fire; "Hell" was originally the English version of the Greek word "Hades."

 

[sojourner]

When was hell created?

Shortly after my divorce when child support kicked in.

 

[Shiranui117]

Shortly after my divorce when child support kicked in.

:biglaugh:

 

[satori8]

Shortly after my divorce when child support kicked in.

LOL! Touche'!