When Will Anti-Atheism Be Viewed as Bigotry?

[atanu]

Yup, it does discriminate based on religious affiliation or persuasion, and all the while taking government money to support itself. A huge no-no in the USA.
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Damn ... That sucks. They're going to have to get rid of all their newborns.

The point was that the BSA resolution is about their members and internally they are free to assert that good citizenship involves having faith. The resolution does not infer that atheists are 'nasty' and 'filthy' and must be kicked out. The author of the article that Sunstone linked infers these.

 

[Skwim]

The point was that the BSA resolution is about their members and internally they are free to assert that good citizenship involves having faith.

That wasn't the point of the article at all. I suggest you go back and reread it with an open mind.

The resolution does not infer that atheists are 'nasty' and 'filthy' and must be kicked out. The author of the article that Sunstone linked infers these.

Good grief, PLEASE go back and reread it.

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[atanu]

That wasn't the point of the article at all. I suggest you go back and reread it with an open mind.
Good grief, PLEASE go back and reread it.
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I am talking of 'my point'.

My point is that the BSA resolution that the author has shown does not use words like 'nasty' or 'filthy' for atheists. Author has inserted those in his discussion as if theists use these words to describe atheists. Please read the article. Also the BSA resolution does not support author's greater claim that theists want atheists out of the country.
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Bigotry is the natural culmination of the sense of otherness, which is also natural. But actually, no 'other' is separate from one's mind. Anyone who mistakenly objectifies/labels oneself as an atheist or a theist or a Hindu or a Muslim etc. etc., will be prone to bigotry. IMO, the author of the article, by implying that theists use words such as 'nasty' or 'filthy' for atheists, is not being truthful and is not being rational. It is an attempt to hyperbole.

 

[Skwim]

I am talking of 'my point'.

My point is that the BSA resolution that the author has shown does not use words like 'nasty' or 'filthy' for atheists. Author has inserted those in his discussion as if theists use these words to describe atheists.

No, he inserted them as an exaggeration to make his point; although, I'm sure this is how more than a few theists (not necessarily those in BSA people) think of atheists. Just consider Christianity's champion Fred Phelps of God Hates **** fame, and his disdain for atheists. I can very easily see him calling atheists nasty and filthy.

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[Mock Turtle]

Very different thing!

I have no religious affiliation. But I am not an atheist by any means.

No, but it does mean that the majority in the UK are not religious it seems - and growing according to the data.

 

[Kirran]

No, but it does mean that the majority in the UK are not religious it seems - and growing according to the data.

Yeah definitely.

 

[atanu]

No, he inserted them as an exaggeration to make his point; ...

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Yeah. Yeah.
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[stvdv]

14 jul 2018 stvdv 017 61

When Will Anti-Atheism Be Viewed as Bigotry? Well written article on anti-atheism as "acceptable" bigotry. Comments?

75% of the Americans are Christians. Christians MUST evangelize [Jesus will come back to earth when mission evangelizing accomplished; taking them with Him to heaven]

So "US allowing `Anti-Atheism`" gives me the feeling it's part of their Plan [Kick out certain groups to make Jesus land in US; don't wait till 3% atheists is growing]

Russia started with JW, small group. Small is easy, masses don't complain. Some atheists on RF think proselytizing is okay because of "Freedom of Speech/Religion"

Good article @Sunstone: I hope people wake up and see the goals of the biggest religions on earth [Just my common sense, 1+1=2; Christians+evangelizing=NoAtheists]

 

[PureX]

What you seem to be describing is some segment of society that doesn't even know what bigotry is; probably to the extent that they've never even considered the word before.

Fair comment, but I don't see what that has to do with my post you quoted.

I'm just responding with my thoughts on the subject. They're not necessarily aimed at you.

I think bigotry is sort of like denial. Those who are engaged in it cannot recognize that they are engaged in it, because that's the nature of it. And those who can see it in others can do little about it until those others are willing or able to see it in themselves. So really, the only hope for mitigating bigotry is to look for it within ourselves, and try and mitigate it, within. Which is why the definition given in Websters referred to it as an "obstinate or intolerant devotion to one's own opinions and prejudices".

 

[Mock Turtle]

14 jul 2018 stvdv 017 61

75% of the Americans are Christians. Christians MUST evangelize [Jesus will come back to earth when mission evangelizing accomplished; taking them with Him to heaven]

So "US allowing `Anti-Atheism`" gives me the feeling it's part of their Plan [Kick out certain groups to make Jesus land in US; don't wait till 3% atheists is growing]

Russia started with JW, small group. Small is easy, masses don't complain. Some atheists on RF think proselytizing is okay because of "Freedom of Speech/Religion"

Good article @Sunstone: I hope people wake up and see the goals of the biggest religions on earth [Just my common sense, 1+1=2; Christians+evangelizing=NoAtheists]

I think the USA is a special case (in many senses ), in that the very founding of the nation was rather tied to religion, and because it is a relatively young nation, the inertia of such is still seen. Just as many of the nations subject to Christian or other missionaries are often the most devoted to their religious beliefs. Most other relatively advanced nations do show declining religious beliefs across the board (unless it is state advanced), and I would suspect this trend will continue. Even the USA shows such signs too.

 

[Brickjectivity]

Indeed, quite the opposite, I wouldn't mention devout religious beliefs at any job interview.

In USA and its territories its illegal for employers to inquire about religion during the employ selection process. Doing so gets the employer into financial and regulatory problems if not litigation, but probably also litigation.

 

[stvdv]

15 jul 2018 stvdv 017 68

I think the USA is a special case (in many senses ), in that the very founding of the nation was rather tied to religion, and because it is a relatively young nation, the inertia of such is still seen. Just as many of the nations subject to Christian or other missionaries are often the most devoted to their religious beliefs. Most other relatively advanced nations do show declining religious beliefs across the board (unless it is state advanced), and I would suspect this trend will continue. Even the USA shows such signs too.

Good point. India religions are more tolerant IMO but have been around 20.000+ as I heard. With internet available USA might pick up quicker and be nicer to atheists sooner

 

[MonkeyFire]

You are like, satirizing a bigot, right?

By being passive to haters?

 

[Valjean]

I wonder if it is about belief in god, as such, or something else?

The guy with flood water on Neptune may be told he is
missing his floorplate, but then, with good reason.

I am guessing you ran into some low class idiots who
call themselves atheists and just wanted to be mean.

I've noticed a lot of religious people are pretty touchy about their beliefs. They sometimes interpret any dissenting views or defensive replies as aggression.

 

[Audie]

By being passive to haters?

Weirdly inappropriate response but I got my answer
anyway.
It wasnt satire, nor very introspective.

I think i will avoid you.

 

[Audie]

I've noticed a lot of religious people are pretty touchy about their beliefs. They sometimes interpret any dissenting views or defensive replies as aggression.

I guess being told their beliefs
such "flood" make no semse
gets translated to "you are stupid".

 

[MonkeyFire]

Weirdly iappropriate response but I got my answer
anyway.
It wasnt satire, nor very introspective.

I think i will avoid you.

Troll

 

[Subduction Zone]

I guess being told their beliefs
such "flood" make no semse
gets translated to "you are stupid".

Perhaps they know deep down that such a belief is not that far from a belief in Santa Claus.

 

[Audie]

Perhaps they know deep down that such a belief is not that far from a belief in Santa Claus.

Who knows. Ive been told that deep down I believe.

 

[Mock Turtle]

Good point. India religions are more tolerant IMO but have been around 20.000+ as I heard. With internet available USA might pick up quicker and be nicer to atheists sooner

Happy birthday - hope it was a good one.