When will the right stop? When will honesty become an important value again?

[Evangelicalhumanist]

Here it is -- the right in Oklahoma (77 counties, all won by Trump, the state won by way over 30%) -- now wants the vote to be distrusted!

"Oklahomans have the right to know their election results can be trusted," state Rep. Sean Roberts, R-Hominy, said in a news release.

Roberts wrote a letter to the Oklahoma State Election Board, saying, "Every citizen deserves to have faith in the integrity of the election process and its outcome. It is my responsibility, as an elected public servant, to assure my constituents that Oklahoma’s elections are safe and secure."

Roberts continued the news release by spreading unfounded claims that there was widespread voter fraud in various states during the 2020 presidential election.

What, they think they should have won 78 of those 77 counties? Or 88? Or 206? They think they should have won by 86%? 103% or 409%?

I make no comment other than to post, but there is something much, much, much more sinister going on in the Republican side of the American experiment with democracy.

Tell me what it is.

Anybody.

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

Now I'll tell you my opinion -- the Republicans in the United States of America are trying to destroy democracy by trying to discredit it in every possible way, at every possible turn.

What good, after all, is Democracy if it lets anybody who isn't a Republican win?

 

[PoetPhilosopher]

I think the right will stop when we stop giving them all this negative attention.

 

[Father Heathen]

They've disavowed freedom and democracy once they found them no longer favorable. They worship the cross while forgetting the man who died upon it.

 

[Father Heathen]

I think the right will stop when we stop giving them all this negative attention.

No. They feel as if they represent the U.S. in its entirety; I.e. they're the *real* Americans, thus the country is rightfully theirs.

 

[Friend of Mara]

Probably never? If it works they will continue to do it. I don't see it not working anytime in the future.

 

[Shaul]

“Decaf”. Think about it.

 

[Valjean]

Now I'll tell you my opinion -- the Republicans in the United States of America are trying to destroy democracy by trying to discredit it in every possible way, at every possible turn.

What good, after all, is Democracy if it lets anybody who isn't a Republican win?

The Republicans aren't big on Democracy. They're more into capitalism and a large pool of cheap labor to facilitate it.

 

[Shaul]

The Republicans aren't big on Democracy. They're more into capitalism and a large pool of cheap labor to facilitate it.

What a unwarranted straw man.

 

[Valjean]

Did that stop them in Spain, Italy or Germany? I think they prefer to work behind the scenes with small changes and legisative tweeks noöne notices.
Just look at the Koch brothers. Nobody noticed them, for years, and look what they managed to achieve.

Put the spotlight on them and maybe they'll make like cockroaches.

 

[Valjean]

What a unwarranted straw man.

But it's historically and analytically true.

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

What a unwarranted straw man.

Are you certain? Got stats?

 

[Shadow Wolf]

I think the right will stop when we stop giving them all this negative attention.

All attention is good attention. Even free bad advertising is still free advertising. People stop giving them attention, they have people like Roger Stone who will force the attention on them (and he loves some negative attention).

 

[Shaul]

But it's historically and analytically true.

No, its just your personal opinion.

 

[Valjean]

No, its just your personal opinion.

Read some history.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Here it is -- the right in Oklahoma (77 counties, all won by Trump, the state won by way over 30%) -- now wants the vote to be distrusted!

What, they think they should have won 78 of those 77 counties? Or 88? Or 206? They think they should have won by 86%? 103% or 409%?

I make no comment other than to post, but there is something much, much, much more sinister going on in the Republican side of the American experiment with democracy.

Tell me what it is.

Anybody.

As reported by the upstanding, honest, straight as an arrow, esteemed nobles of the left, throughly imbued with integrity I'm sure.

 

[Epic Beard Man]

I think the right will stop when we stop giving them all this negative attention.

Do you stop cancer by not talking about it?

 

[Epic Beard Man]

Are you certain? Got stats?

nope

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

As reported by the upstanding, honest, straight as an arrow, esteemed nobles of the left, throughly imbued with integrity I'm sure.

But do, please, try to notice that you totally avoided the actual question. It's a technique, but some of the more clever among us can actually see through it.

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

nope

Then why make the accusation of it being a strawman? And unwarranted? Just something to say?