Where are all the anit-war protesters now?

[esmith]

During the Bush presidency there were many groups protesting the military actions of the US, but now it seems that they seem to think that Obama's war is OK. Or is it that they have aged to the point that they have changed their minds about military actions? Anyone have any ideas what the answer is?

 

[metis]

During the Bush presidency there were many groups protesting the military actions of the US, but now it seems that they seem to think that Obama's war is OK. Or is it that they have aged to the point that they have changed their minds about military actions? Anyone have any ideas what the answer is?

There have been some limited protests, but I think that the shock value of the beheadings by ISIS, which flipped the polls on whether we should get involved, has had a profound effect on public opinion. OTOH, "Bushie's War" had some significant opposition to begin with, which got stronger and stronger as it turned out that it was a near complete fiasco planned by those both incompetent and deceitful in the "Bushie" administration.

 

[Estro Felino]

During the Bush presidency there were many groups protesting the military actions of the US, but now it seems that they seem to think that Obama's war is OK. Or is it that they have aged to the point that they have changed their minds about military actions? Anyone have any ideas what the answer is?

In my country people do say that Bush and Obama are cut from the same cloth
Puppets of the crude oil oligopoly.

 

[Whiterain]

Well I thought grieving your country into suicide was the most intrepid and intrinsic
genocide in history, particularly if WW3 happens.

I would be euphoric if the US started a draft, which is possible.

Got to stew up that fear, that draft scare.

As far as going back to battle, many of the men may be begrudged towards
"radical" Islamist by now.

Moral is surprisingly high among the troops who desire to go back to battle.

 

[BSM1]

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would be euphoric if the US started a draft, which is possible.

The US has a draft. It's never been cancelled, and it can be active at any time. Our military forces have enough volunteers (that's people who are not forced to do or join something) to meet our present quotas. So stay tuned.

 

[Whiterain]

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The US has a draft. It's never been cancelled, and it can be active at any time. Our military forces have enough volunteers (that's people who are not forced to do or join something) to meet our present quotas. So stay tuned.

The selective service is weak though, we need to police up some of this
talent polluting American oxygen, get them on level.

Like the legend of Pvt.Pyle who was almost a damn good Marine.

 

[BSM1]

The selective service is weak though, we need to police up some of this
talent polluting American oxygen, get them on level.

Like the legend of Pvt.Pyle who was almost a damn good Marine.

What in the world are you talking about?

 

[Whiterain]

Don't worry about it.

 

[esmith]

There have been some limited protests, but I think that the shock value of the beheadings by ISIS, which flipped the polls on whether we should get involved, has had a profound effect on public opinion. OTOH, "Bushie's War" had some significant opposition to begin with, which got stronger and stronger as it turned out that it was a near complete fiasco planned by those both incompetent and deceitful in the "Bushie" administration.

Not just talking about the current conflict in Iraq/Syria but all of the military actions that are taking place now and in the last 6 years.

 

[Amechania]

God we made a f.. ..g mess. I miss Saddam.

 

[columbus]

In my country people do say that Bush and Obama are cut from the same cloth
Puppets of the crude oil oligopoly.

Unfortunate but true. If Obama wanted to avoid military action in the ME he would push policies that slash oil imports.
He could still earn that Nobel Peace Prize.
If we didn't value stable supplies of petroleum more than peace we could get out. ISIS would be on the back page and ignored.

Tom

 

[Valjean]

During the Bush presidency there were many groups protesting the military actions of the US, but now it seems that they seem to think that Obama's war is OK. Or is it that they have aged to the point that they have changed their minds about military actions? Anyone have any ideas what the answer is?

I must have missed these massive, Bush era protests -- but then I lived through the Viet Nam era.
As for "Obama's war," I'm not seeing any new war -- just a few new targets; just a blip in America's state of perpetual war.

There have been some limited protests, but I think that the shock value of the beheadings by ISIS, which flipped the polls on whether we should get involved, has had a profound effect on public opinion.

I always find it disheartening, how easily people can be led into war. Our good friend and ally, Saudi Arabia, beheaded 19 people just last month -- and those figures are only for the first 20 days. Why no outrage about that?
And I see we have some new propaganda already emerging: A new group ("under 50") of super dangerous terrorists in the final stages of a planned attack on the Heimat has suddenly popped up.
You could probably find a larger group of armed, anti-government insurgents -- already on American soil -- at a local NRA meeting.

Are they going to start tossing babies out of incubators next?

 

[columbus]

During the Bush presidency there were many groups protesting the military actions of the US, but now it seems that they seem to think that Obama's war is OK. Or is it that they have aged to the point that they have changed their minds about military actions? Anyone have any ideas what the answer is?

Not all of us are as partisan as you are. Some of us look at the information and not at the party affiliation.
I did not agree that invading Afghanistan was the best response to 9/11, but I understood it as a military response. I didn't protest against it. I learned that invading Iraq was a naked oil grab months before it happened and I was out in the streets, I organized letter writing, I gave people information that wasn't at all secret just ignored. Bush's campaign of lies won out, but I did everything I could to stop my country from creating the mess we are now in.

Obama is just stuck cleaning it up, rather like he is stuck with the domestic economy woes. And unlike George Bush he is also stuck with a Congress more interested in partisan politics than helping with the many huge problems left behind by the previous administration.

Tom

 

[dust1n]

During the Bush presidency there were many groups protesting the military actions of the US, but now it seems that they seem to think that Obama's war is OK. Or is it that they have aged to the point that they have changed their minds about military actions? Anyone have any ideas what the answer is?

Because the Bush era showed anti-war protestors that no one cares enough to change it, so many disillusioned peoples just gave up and went back to whatever it was they were doing.

 

[esmith]

Not all of us are as partisan as you are. Some of us look at the information and not at the party affiliation.
I did not agree that invading Afghanistan was the best response to 9/11, but I understood it as a military response. I didn't protest against it. I learned that invading Iraq was a naked oil grab months before it happened and I was out in the streets, I organized letter writing, I gave people information that wasn't at all secret just ignored. Bush's campaign of lies won out, but I did everything I could to stop my country from creating the mess we are now in.

Obama is just stuck cleaning it up, rather like he is stuck with the domestic economy woes. And unlike George Bush he is also stuck with a Congress more interested in partisan politics than helping with the many huge problems left behind by the previous administration.

Tom

Huh, where in my post did I mention anything about party affiliations? Yes, I used G.W. Bush as the most current example. But I understand your point. We will just have to see. Oh, so now it is Bush's fault about ISIS.....hmmmm....I don't understand your reasoning. Seems to me that ISIS started in Syria against Assad. Oh well, will consider the source.