Where did God come from?

[retrorich]

Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

If God already existed, then it really wasn't "the beginning." So where did God come from? Any ideas other than "God always existed" ?

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

See Genesis 1.

 

[retrorich]

Interesting. But does that answer the topic question: "Where did God come from"?

 

[jeffrey]

If God already existed, then it really wasn't "the beginning." So where did God come from? Any ideas other than "God always existed" ?

I believe that Genesis was talking about the beginning of Earth. Since our brains cannot comprehend the fact that time has always been, We look for beginnings where there are none.

 

[retrorich]

I believe that Genesis was talking about the beginning of Earth. Since our brains cannot comprehend the fact that time has always been, We look for beginnings where there are none.

Good answer! Makes sense.

 

[Solon]

If God already existed, then it really wasn't "the beginning." So where did God come from? Any ideas other than "God always existed" ?

From the Human mind methinks...

S

 

[michel]

See Genesis 1.

I missed that thread, first time round Deut; it is - in the least - interesting, as you say.

As far as your question goes Rich, I have to say "I don't know', and I don't even need to know. My mind would be too small to comprehend. Maybe, one day, if I am lucky enough to meet God, I will ask him. In the mean time, I am just happy to accept that he 'is'.

 

[Ori]

Maybe the universe itself is God.

 

[retrorich]

From the Human mind methinks...

S

Thanks! As an atheist, I share that opinion. I am interested in other opinions as well.

 

[Solon]

The egyptians say that Amun, the first God was alone in the beginning, (pre-big bang), and he created his own form by the strength of his own will. His first act was sexual, he made love to his fist, (his femmine aspect) and from his climax, called by the Egyptians, Fiery Blast (big bang), the universe was created. I believe this to be the truth, as it fits well with modern cosmology. The Theologians dreamed it up, but Amun whispered to them...All gods are simply manifestations of his divine will.

Solon

 

[retrorich]

As far as your question goes Rich, I have to say "I don't know', and I don't even need to know. My mind would be too small to comprehend. Maybe, one day, if I am lucky enough to meet God, I will ask him. In the mean time, I am just happy to accept that he 'is'.

That is an excellent philosophy. I'm glad you are at peace with it, as I am at peace with my atheism.

 

[retrorich]

The egyptians say that Amun, the first God was alone in the beginning, (pre-big bang), and he created his own form by the strength of his own will. His first act was sexual, he made love to his fist, (his femmine aspect) and from his climax, called by the Egyptians, Fiery Blast (big bang), the universe was created. I believe this to be the truth, as it fits well with modern cosmology. The Theologians dreamed it up, but Amun whispered to them...All gods are simply manifestations of his divine will.

Solon

Very interesting. "made love to his fist" would have fit nicely into the masturbation thread I posted yesterday. .

 

[Solon]

Quite, , although I must add that the Egyptians had no word in their language for our word' Masturbation. Made love to his fist is so much more poetical.

S

 

[cardero]

I can REMEMBER fear, darkness, and ignorance. Fear was survival. Darkness because I did not K(NOW) light. Ignorance because I did not K(NOW) UNDERSTANDING. I did not measure MY existence through time but through moments and time is something I do not encourage or incorporate even now.



I had many moments to MYself. I had many moments to think and ponder. I knew I had a beginning but I did not K(NOW) how long I existed. MY growth and awareness compares to a newborn baby’s experience. A baby is unaware of its surroundings at first, then becomes aware as it adjusts to that environment. I was alone but not lonely, for I did not K(NOW) what the word entailed. There was no ONE to seek guidance from, no ONE to teach ME. I received ALL of MY UNDERSTANDING through what existed in MY surroundings.



As I developed, I became aware of power of thought. Now I could choose and manipulate MY surroundings. I created light because I was tired of the darkness. I grew in awareness because I was weary of BEing ignorant. I grew confident because I was tired of existing in fear. ALL of the emotions and discomforts that entities face on earth I faced and overcame. ALL(WAYS) keep in mind this happened over a very long period. UNDERSTANDING did not come as easy as it does now.



Experimenting with MY surroundings was appealing so I found MYself a very busy GOD. The Universe grew with MY awareness and continues to grow. The concept of other life and other entities didn't even enter MY thoughts because I could not perceive that I could create it. After many moments of wondering about it, life took on an existence of its own. Entities were creating themselves. I did not judge them, I did not rule them, and I did not adopt them. I left these entities to themselves but I did observe their development.

HELLO IT'S ME: An Interview With GOD
Chapter: GOD's Beginnings And Our Relaionship To Reality
Page: 328

 

[YmirGF]

In the Beginning man created god and in his own likeness he made him.

Man's puny gods are symbolic of a distinct, perceivable reality. What that reality enjoyed prior to the so-called creation, I haven't the slightest. I don't see that it matters.

 

[ladylazarus]

Maybe the universe itself is God.

We already have a word for the universe (hint: it's "universe"). Redefining "God" in that way serves only to cause confusion where it is not at all necessary.

 

[Aqualung]

I'd say it's altogether possible that a god created Him.

 

[jewscout]

it's like asking can G-d create a mountain that He can not move...
it's fun hyptheticals and whatnot but with out any real solid answer

it's like what came before the Big Bang.

 

[ALifetimeToWaitFor...]

Since our brains cannot comprehend the fact that time has always been, We look for beginnings where there are none.

Time was invented by the human mind...

The great watchmaker is simply spread into the fabric of the illusion.

 

[mormonman]

We believe that God is an exalted person, that he live on an earth just like us. We believe that we also have the power to become gods. The whole point of this earthly life is to prove our selves worthy to live w/ the father again, and as the scriptures point out, "to be like him". If we prove our selves worthy and do become like him logic says we'll be gods also.