Where did Jesus go?

[Robert.Evans]

Who cares what he believes in, were talking about history here. You dont believe in history, you study it.

Well then he is in error again.

Christianity is or was not Judaism.


Besides, this is about what you believe in and what you stated and what I replied to in context.


And the above has nothing to do with the flock you metioned.

Scripture is history, you just don't understand it. You are in error, many times over, and you say nothing

 

[Robert.Evans]

I asked you for clarification from the start for what you said because it makes no sense as written.

So now Jews are wolves?

The Christians?

And who are you to judge what the word of a god is? Your personal view is not relevant to the god of Judaism, nor christianities gods.

I find your comments unbelievable. You ask someone who believes who she is to judge?? You might ask the same of yourself.

 

[Robert.Evans]

I am getting tired and you are chasing me around in circles. Reverse that. I can't tell if you are kidding.

The true gospel is not a lie. The gospel is linked to the promise of God who can not lie about promises made.

THEN after the writing of it man's understanding crept in. Even if the mistakes were not on purpose IT IS STILL LYING. BECAUSE the true words are linked to the promise of GOD.

You waste your time arguing with atheists....they argue just to argue, to be clever, you have made your point, he just does not see it. These things are spiritually discerned. The Bible is not written to be easily understood. If it is hard for us, then how much harder is it for them.

 

[Robert.Evans]

You have no credible evidence for such.


It is also off topic, as OP is talking about dead jesus, not your personal wishes.

How do you know!

 

[Robert.Evans]

No.

Doesnt work like that. They were originally written for private communities in the Roman Empire.

We just use them at will.

The OT was written for Jews and or Israeltes, we just use it.

That is taking its original intent, out of historical context.

You do not understand what you speak of

 

[Robert.Evans]

The OT was not only for Israel

Exodus 12:48 “A foreigner residing among you who wants to celebrate the Lord’s Passover must have all the males in his household circumcised; then he may take part like one born in the land. No uncircumcised male may eat it. 49 The same law applies both to the native-born and to the foreigner residing among you.”

Numbers 9:14 "'A foreigner residing among you is also to celebrate the LORD's Passover in accordance with its rules and regulations. You must have the same regulations for both the foreigner and the native-born.'"

Also how can scripture be only for them as Jesus is savior of the world?

Correct...

 

[Robert.Evans]

That is ONLY a personal opinion. Not fact.

No it is fact, but you are blind

 

[Thief]

Correct.

The fact that I will not exist in the future holds no more fear for me than does the fact that I did not exist in the past. Death is simply the price we pay for life - and it is a bargain.

I didn't make any deal getting here.

Now LEAVING might be something else.

and GOING to a better place something else again.

But it appears you have no taste for that discussion.

 

[Thief]

A flock is a group of people, which you don't seem to understand, which shows that you have no knowledge of this time period, but then how could you!

A flock is a group of birds.
Congregation is a group of believers.

 

[Desert Snake]

You waste your time arguing with atheists....they argue just to argue, to be clever, you have made your point, he just does not see it. These things are spiritually discerned. The Bible is not written to be easily understood. If it is hard for us, then how much harder is it for them.

I disagree, I think the Bible clearly states where Jesus Christ went after the resurrection.

 

[Thief]

I disagree, I think the Bible clearly states where Jesus Christ went after the resurrection.

But do you believe He went that ^ way?
And are you going to follow?

 

[Desert Snake]

But do you believe He went that ^ way?
And are you going to follow?

How could anyone follow Jesus there?

I think Jesus is not a "man" only, despite ones religious affiliation. See what I mean? I don't create a ficticious story to justify Scripture.

 

[Thief]

How could anyone follow Jesus there?

I think Jesus is not a "man" only, despite ones religious affiliation. See what I mean? I don't create a ficticious story to justify Scripture.

Believing in a disappearing act is ......believable?

I have always had some reservation about the ascension.
We have satellites, radar, airplanes, hot air balloons.....etc....

It would seem the notion of heaven in the clouds died with Him.

But I did mean it literally.....

 

[Desert Snake]

Believing in a disappearing act is ......believable?

I have always had some reservation about the ascension.
We have satellites, radar, airplanes, hot air balloons.....etc....

It would seem the notion of heaven in the clouds died with Him.

But I did mean it literally.....

That is believable, imo. But, I'm not the person to be asking for Christian belief besides general concepts, I'm not a 'real Christian'.

 

[savagewind]

A flock is a group of birds.
Congregation is a group of believers.

Flock of sheep. Psalm 23.

Jiohn 10:14 I am the good shepherd. I know my own and my own know me

Ehesians 4:11 And he gave the apostles, the prophets, the evangelists, the shepherds and teachers

A congregation is one group of believers. And even that is not true.

Jude 1:4 For certain individuals whose condemnation was written about long ago have secretly slipped in among you. They are ungodly people, who pervert the grace of our God into a license for immorality and deny Jesus Christ our only Sovereign and Lord.

 

[Thief]

That is believable, imo. But, I'm not the person to be asking for Christian belief besides general concepts, I'm not a 'real Christian'.

Yeah....I dropped the congregational thing.....and the dogma.

Where did He go?
I lean to the notion the kingdom is of spirit.

You can only get there by dying.
And some appropriate personal training would help.

 

[Thief]

Flock of sheep. Psalm 23.

Jiohn 10:14 I am the good shepherd. I know my own and my own know me

Ehesians 4:11 And he gave the apostles, the prophets, the evangelists, the shepherds and teachers

A congregation is one group of believers. And even that is not true.

Jude 1:4 For certain individuals whose condemnation was written about long ago have secretly slipped in among you. They are ungodly people, who pervert the grace of our God into a license for immorality and deny Jesus Christ our only Sovereign and Lord.

yeah, yeah....I know....

 

[savagewind]

Yeah....I dropped the congregational thing.....and the dogma.

Where did He go?
I lean to the notion the kingdom is of spirit.

You can only get there by dying.
And some appropriate personal training would help.

The kingdom is a kigdom of dead people? Of course dying is necessary for the Kingdom to work through a person. It is death by baptism. A baptized believer's selfish will dies to be replaced with God's will be done for this place. What good is the gospel in that place of the dead?

Luke 4:18
The Spirit of the Lord is on me, because he has anointed me to proclaim good news to the poor. He has sent me to proclaim freedom for the prisoners and recovery of sight for the blind, to set the oppressed free,

 

[Robert.Evans]

A flock is a group of birds.
Congregation is a group of believers.

ha ha, very funny

 

[Robert.Evans]

Flock of sheep. Psalm 23.

Jiohn 10:14 I am the good shepherd. I know my own and my own know me

Ehesians 4:11 And he gave the apostles, the prophets, the evangelists, the shepherds and teachers

A congregation is one group of believers. And even that is not true.

Jude 1:4 For certain individuals whose condemnation was written about long ago have secretly slipped in among you. They are ungodly people, who pervert the grace of our God into a license for immorality and deny Jesus Christ our only Sovereign and Lord.

That is very good