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Where did Jesus go?

savagewind

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Only proof that you have faith, which we really dont care about.


If you wanmt us to imagine where we think jesus went, you should have said so.

I don't care what they think about where Jesus went. Jesus said he would be with his disciples. Matthew 28:20. The people who believe what the Bible says Jesus said say he will be "coming back". I asked the question because someone present can't come back because he is here. Savvy?
 

savagewind

Veteran Member
Premium Member
In your mind is all that we know about. Imagination.
Its why you have no evidence at all he is here :facepalm:

Here? You saying here means there. I suspect he is not there. It is true I only suspect he is here. The reason there is no evidence is not because it is not true. The reason there is no evidence is because evidence is of the world and Jesus is not part of the world. If he will provide evidence of his presence he would become a part of the world and his words would prove false. That is not possible imo.
 

outhouse

Atheistically
Here? You saying here means there. I suspect he is not there. It is true I only suspect he is here. The reason there is no evidence is not because it is not true. The reason there is no evidence is because evidence is of the world and Jesus is not part of the world. If he will provide evidence of his presence he would become a part of the world and his words would prove false. That is not possible imo.

We do not need your personal excuses.

If he is "here" then you must base this assumption on something. What is it.
 

savagewind

Veteran Member
Premium Member
We do not need your personal excuses.

If he is "here" then you must base this assumption on something. What is it.

I asked him to come and I am happy almost all of the time. I have inner peace and I often feel joyfull. I feel like I am safe. I do not worry about the future.
 
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savagewind

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Nice, that is what religion is for.


I enjoy history and science..

I have to disagree "that is what religion is for". Modern Christianity puts fear in people, not peace, at least the one I was a member of for almost 20 years. They say we must warn the people Armegeddon is coming to destroy them "any second now". If they are destroyed at Armegeddon it means they hate God and shall never be in the place that God prepares for those that love him. How is that joyful? If you do not warn the others of impending doom you will be doomed yourself. How is that feeling safe?

Also religion teaches a person should live for the future, not for the present. "Be good go to heavn but be bad be destroyed". That I call worrying about the future.
 
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`mud

Just old
Premium Member
I'm sensing a perpetual merry-go-round here.
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to Savage,
Since your Jesus is "here", where is God, or are they the same ?
And I have to guess you have no fear of armegeddon.
And your almost always happy, that's nice for you.
Now, what religion do you belong to, what congregation of what church.
I'm really confused, I thought you were christian.
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Just curious.
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'mud
 

savagewind

Veteran Member
Premium Member
I'm sensing a perpetual merry-go-round here.
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to Savage,
Since your Jesus is "here", where is God, or are they the same ?
And I have to guess you have no fear of armegeddon.
And your almost always happy, that's nice for you.
Now, what religion do you belong to, what congregation of what church.
I'm really confused, I thought you were christian.
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Just curious.
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'mud

How nice! Jesus is god enough. YHVH and Yeshua are not the same. YHVH is The I AM. Yeshua is the Salvation of the I AM. One aspect of a personality is not the whole person. The Person of God is much more than salvation. The Lord Jesus (Yeshua or Yehoshua) is my religion. No church. No congregation. "You will know the truth and the truth will set you free". I believe that and am experiencing it.

I do not fear Armegeddon.

We do not know who first called believers in a risen Christ "Christian". I suspect it was people of the nations that named them that. I have no qualms about the name Christian. I am able to say I am one.

There is at least one person (a Christian) who had the guts to speak her mind and she called me "of Satan".

Thank you.
 

outhouse

Atheistically
I have to disagree .

I didnt say it was not abused by those that run modern religion.

Also religion teaches a person should live for the future, not for the present.

Ridiculous.

Provide credible examples.

Like this one below.


If one does not live a good life now, he does not get through the pearly gates.

The ten commandments are not for tomorrow they are for today.
 

outhouse

Atheistically
YHVH and Yeshua are not the same

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Your methodology here.

I see your exactly like an atheist, your creating your own version of Jesus, with your own personal definition.


I love it when people define gods provong my point that only people create gods.
 

savagewind

Veteran Member
Premium Member
I didnt say it was not abused by those that run modern religion.



Ridiculous.

Provide credible examples.

Like this one below.


If one does not live a good life now, he does not get through the pearly gates.

The ten commandments are not for tomorrow they are for today.

To obey them is to be rewarded later.Later is the opposite of now.
 

savagewind

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Your methodology here.

I see your exactly like an atheist, your creating your own version of Jesus, with your own personal definition.


I love it when people define gods provong my point that only people create gods.

Jesus did not create his God.
 

Thief

Rogue Theologian
Yes spirit. But you say it is on the other side. Yes or no? Is it not here?

When the Lord's Prayer is recited, there is a call....
Thy kingdom come Thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven.

That would be a pledge.

From that moment on your intention and performance would be to the next life.

Without intention and performance, how then to say you belong there?

You could think of this world and life as a personal training.
 
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