Where did the Gospel begin ?

[dan p]

Hi to all , and ON the many sites that I have been on , many believers say that there is only one Gospel !

If there is one who holds this position , where then does the Gospel BEGIN ?

In Genesis , in Matthew or Acts ?

What say you ?

Do you have a verse that proves that ??

 

[javajo]

The Lord accepts all who call on him, Jew and Gentile alike, from anywhere at any time in history. The Bible says:

How can they call on him unless they believe in him? How can they believe in him unless they hear about him? How can they hear about him unless someone preaches to them? And how can anyone preach without being sent? It is written, "How beautiful are the feet of those who bring good news!"—(Romans 10:14 & Isaiah 52:7)

It also says:

But what does it say? "The word is near you. It's in your mouth and in your heart."—(Romans 10:8 & Deuteronomy 30:14) That means the word we are preaching. You must put your faith in it. Say with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord." Believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead. Then you will be saved. With your heart you believe and are made right with God. With your mouth you say that Jesus is Lord. And so you are saved. (Romans 10:9-10) Scripture says, "The one who trusts in him will never be put to shame."—(Romans 10:11 & Isaiah 28:16) There is no difference between those who are Jews and those who are not. The same Lord is Lord of all. He richly blesses everyone who calls on him. (Romans 10:12) Scripture says, "Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved."—(Romans 10:13 & Joel 2:32)

 

[Biblestudent_007]

in the new testatment Mark Matthew Luke John

 

[dan p]

in the new testatment Mark Matthew Luke John

Hi Biblestudent , and you have a verse , right ???

 

[DavyCrocket2003]

The Gospel never began. The principles of the Gospel are eternal and unchanging.

 

[dan p]

The Gospel never began. The principles of the Gospel are eternal and unchanging.

Hi DavyCrockt2003 , and of course you have a verse for that one too ???

 

[ukCatholic]

The Gospel is the the good news about the forgiveness of sin through the Messiah;

That first promise comes up in Genesis 3, the Old Testament, also called the protoevangelion (granted, this interpretation is debated among bible scholars):

Genesis 3:15
And I will put enmity
Between you and the woman,
And between your seed and her Seed;
He shall bruise your head,
And you shall bruise His heel.”

 

[Renji]

Hi to all , and ON the many sites that I have been on , many believers say that there is only one Gospel !

If there is one who holds this position , where then does the Gospel BEGIN ?

In Genesis , in Matthew or Acts ?

What say you ?

Do you have a verse that proves that ??

I think, it's Matthew, Mark, Luke and John.
verse? I don't know, maybe because the life of Christ was narrated from Matthew and the other three states the same, but with different approaches.

Maybe the reason why some say that there's only one gospel is probably because of this message that God wants us to know: that He loves us so much

 

[dan p]

The Gospel is the the good news about the forgiveness of sin through the Messiah;

That first promise comes up in Genesis 3, the Old Testament, also called the protoevangelion (granted, this interpretation is debated among bible scholars):

Genesis 3:15
And I will put enmity
Between you and the woman,
And between your seed and her Seed;
He shall bruise your head,
And you shall bruise His heel.”

Hi ukCathloic , and this the promise of a redeemer .

#1 , and in Matt 4:17 , Jesus is preaching the Gospel of the Kingdom which will also be preached during the Tribulation period in Matt 24:14 .

#2 , then in Gal 2:7 , Paul writes about the Gospel of the Uncircumcision for the Gentiles ONLY !

#3 , Paul writes that Peter had a Gospel to the Circumcision , but to Jews ONLY !

#4 , Then is Gal 3:8 , that a Gospel was also preached to Abram referenced in Gen 12:3 !

#5 , Also a gospel is in Rev 14:6 and 7 , which is called the " everlasting gospel " which verse 7 says is a gospel of Judgment .

So we see that there are at least 4 different gospels .

 

[idea]

The Gospel never began. The principles of the Gospel are eternal and unchanging.

I agree.

Hi DavyCrockt2003 , and of course you have a verse for that one too ???

God, Eternal Nature of
Deut. 33:27 eternal God is thy refuge
Ps. 90:2 from everlasting to everlasting, thou art God
Ps. 93:2 established of old: thou art from everlasting
Ps. 102:27 thou art the same, and thy years shall have no end
Ps. 146:10 Lord shall reign for ever, even thy God
Isa. 57:15 lofty One that inhabiteth eternity
Isa. 63:16 thy name is from everlasting
Mal. 3:6 I am the Lord, I change not
Rom. 1:20 being understood by ... his eternal power and Godhead
1 Tim. 1:17 King eternal, immortal, invisible
Heb. 13:8 (Morm. 9:9; Moro. 10:7, 19; D&C 20:11–12) Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever
Rev. 22:13 Alpha and Omega ... the first and the last

 

[Clear]

I agree with the LDS posters IDEA and DAVYCROCKET2003 that the early Judao-Christian teaching was that the laws underlying the Gospel are eternal in their nature.

DAVYCROCKET2003 in Post #5] “The Gospel never began. The principles of the Gospel are eternal and unchanging.

For examples : 2nd Clements teaching during the earliest post apostolic period reflect this early Christian Teaching that the laws and the plan and the organization to teach the Gospel existed before the creation of the earth :

“Moreover, the Books and the Apostles declare that the church not only exists now, but has been in existence from the beginning. For she was spiritual, as was also our Jesus, ... (2nd Clement) 14:3

The early writing of Diognetus (from the time when those living might have known the apostles) also describes the pre-creation nature of this plan to educate the spirits of men :

“And after conceiving a great and marvelous plan, .... he gave us everything at once, both to share in his benefits and to see and understand things which none of us ever would have expected... (The Epistle to Diognetus 8:9-11)

The vision of the church in the Book of Hermas (which was in some early new Testaments) relates this same teaching. The angel teaching Hermas is relating the eternal nature, both of the Gospel laws, as well as the eternal nature of the organization to teach men these laws :

“Who do you think the elderly woman from whom you received the little book was?” I said : “The Sibyl.” “You are wrong,” he said. “She is not.” “Then who is she?” I said. “The Church” he replied. I said to him “Why, then, is she elderly?” “Because,” he said, “she was created before all things; therefore she is elderly, and for her sake the world was formed.” (Hermas 8:1)

The law (described by the word and concepts underlying the “torah&#8221 also is described the same way in Jewish Haggadah in the chapter on “the first things created”. “In the beginning, Two thousand years before the Heaven and the earth, seven things were created: The Torah...the Celestial Sanctuary directly in front of God, having a jewel on its altar graven with the Name of the Messiah, and a Voice that cries aloud, “Return, you children of men.” (They are to "return" since they are to go to earth to learn the laws of the gospel / Torah). Pre-creation council histories relate that there was some skepticism among the pre-mortal spirits regarding the earthly world (since mankind would sin).
The Haggadic text relates God the Father’s dispelling of doubts by relating the key principles of the Gospel plan :

“ But God dispelled her doubts. He told her that repentance had been created long before, and sinners would have the opportunity of mending their ways. Besides, the Temple service would be invested with atoning power, and Paradise and Hell were intended to do duty as reward and punishment. Finally, the messiah was appointed to bring salvation, which would put an end to all sinfulness. ... But even this last world would have had no permanence, if God had executed his original plan of ruling it according to the principle of strict justice. It was only when he saw that justice by itself would undermine the world that he associated mercy with justice, and made them to rule jointly.” (The Haggadah (the first things created) ch 1)

It is very clear from early Judao-Christian texts that the plan to educate mankind concerning the eternal laws underlying the Gospel were planned for before the creation of the earth.

This redundant message is again made clear by Judao-Christian text of Ezra as God teaches this very principle to the Prophet Ezra :

“He said to me, “At the beginning of the circle of the earth, before the portals of the worlds were in place, and before the assembled winds blew, and before the rumblings of thunder sounded, and before the flashes lf lightning shone, and before the foundations of paradise were laid, and before the beautiful flowers were seen,....and before the present years were reckoned, and before the imaginations of those who now sin were estranged, and before those who stored up treasures of faith were sealed – then I planned these things, and they were made through me and not through another, just as the end shall come through me and not through another.” (Fourth Book of Ezra 6:1-6)

In the Prophet Enoch’s vision, he sees the pre-earth Creation with it’s countless inhabitants (who will ultimately come to earth) and he sees the Savior who is accompanying God the Father. Enoch asks who this individual is who is “going with” God the Father. It is very clear from the angel’s answer that the Son is destined to be the redeemer according to an already formed, and well laid out plan.

“1 At that place, I saw the One to whom belongs the “chief of days.(“he who precedes time,” “The beginning of days”, “he who is of primordial days,” “the antecedent of time&#8221. And his head was white like wool, and there was with him another individual whose face was like that of a human being. His countenance was full of grace like that of one among the holy angels. 2 And I asked the one–from among the angels–who was going with me, and who had revealed to me all the secrets regarding the One who was born of human beings, “Who is this, and from whence is he who is going as the prototype of the Before-Time (i.e. should be translated - ...from where could he be, and for what reason does he go with him who precedes time?&#8221. 3 And he answered me and said to me, “This is the Son of Man, to whom belongs righteousness, and with whom righteousness dwells. And he will open all the hidden storerooms; for the Lord of the Spirits has chosen him, and he is destined to be victorious before the Lord of the Spirits in eternal uprightness. 4 This Son of Man whom you have seen is the One who would remove the Kings and the mighty ones from their comfortable seats, and the strong ones from their thrones. He shall loosen the reins of the strong and crush the teeth of the sinners. 5 He shall depose the kings from their thrones and kingdoms. For they do not extol and glorify him, and neither do they obey him, the source of their kingship. (1st Enoch 46:1-6)

Enoch is also shown the heavenly “curtain” which is present before the throne of God, upon which all great historical scenes are seen by God, and the context of these great scenes has to do with the prophets among the Jews and Gentiles who are to teach the laws of the Gospel to mankind from adam to the end of the world. During Enoch’s vision of heaven, the angel says to the Prophet of Enoch :

“1 Come and I will show you the curtain of the Omnipresent One, which is spread before the holy One, blessed be he and on which are printed all the generations of the world and all their deeds, whether done or to be done, till the last generation. 2 I went and he showed them to me with his fingers, like a father teaching his son the letters of the Torah: and I saw each generation and its potentiates, ...3...and I saw Adam and his generation, their deeds and their thoughts; Noah and the generation of the flood, their deeds and their thoughts;....Abraham and his generation, their deeds and their thoughts......the teachers of the children in Israel and their generations, their deeds and their acts; the teachers of the children of the gentiles and their generations, their deeds and their acts;...all the prophets of Israel and their generations, their deeds and their acts; all the prophets of the gentiles and their generations, their deeds and their acts...And I saw: the Messiah the son of Joseph and his generation, and all that they will do to the gentiles..... (3rd Enoch 45:1-5)

The purpose in repeating this point several times is to make clear that the LDS posters DavyCrocket2003 and Idea who claimed that the laws of the Gospel are eternal and taught from all generations of time are perfectly correct in their representation of early Judao-Christian Doctrine.

Clear
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[angellous_evangellous]

In the preaching of Jesus.

 

[dance-above]

It began in the beginning. Genesis 1:1 , John 1:1 the WORD was in God in the beginning.

 

[Beta]

How about Mk.1v15 : The time is fulfilled and the Kingdom of God is at hand repent ye and believe the Gospel (Good News).
Mat.24v14 : And this Gospel (Good News) of the Kingdom shall be preached in all the world .....
The Gospel is the Good News of the Kingdom of God Jesus came to preach and was again to be preached at the end of this age.
The ' KINGDOM of GOD is the central message ! :yes: