Biblestudent_007
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Wasn't there some debate on whether to teach creationism or evolution in public schools? Science & Religion etc <><
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Wheres the debate on whether we teach creationism or evolution in public schools?
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Matthew78
aspiring biblical scholar
I have a simple solution in regards to creationism in the public schools. Here's what we do: before students take any science classes, all students should be required to take a "critical thinking" class. For the first semester, you teach kids how to construct logical arguments, both deductive and inductive. You teach kids about all the different fallacies used in arguments. You also teach kids about science, what constitutes sound scientific reasoning as well as what makes something pseudoscience. For the second semester, you teach kids how to apply critical thinking and scientific reasoning to different ideas. You bring up creationism, New Age thinking, ideas like the "law of attraction" and other ideas considered to be pseudoscience or bad science.
You teach the kids what the mainstream consensus opinion is on these topics and why most reputable scientists consider creationism, "psychic archeology", the "law of attraction", and other ideas are not sound-science and present the arguments in favor of these ideas and see if the students can detect flaws in the arguments or reasoning of these people. Students will see, for themselves, why these ideas are considered bad science, and students will be given the opportunity to decide for themselves.
The problem is that we don't have mandatory high school classes for critical thinking and scientific skepticism and so it's no wonder why creationism and other ideas still persist in this day and age.
You teach the kids what the mainstream consensus opinion is on these topics and why most reputable scientists consider creationism, "psychic archeology", the "law of attraction", and other ideas are not sound-science and present the arguments in favor of these ideas and see if the students can detect flaws in the arguments or reasoning of these people. Students will see, for themselves, why these ideas are considered bad science, and students will be given the opportunity to decide for themselves.
The problem is that we don't have mandatory high school classes for critical thinking and scientific skepticism and so it's no wonder why creationism and other ideas still persist in this day and age.
Biblestudent_007
Active Member
There does seem to be this deep dark Agnostic space out there. (E.T. Phone home)
Biblestudent_007
Active Member
Do we believe that public schools should be given funds to purchase textbooks on biology and evolution? . .
outhouse
Atheistically
believe? what kind of a statement is that.
I call POE, you have been pulling this for a while
Skwim
Veteran Member
Most of the we do, although a small fraction do not.
I'll go out on a limb here and suggest we should also fund chemistry, history and Mathematics textbooks.
McBell
Unbound
Seems to me that if they get creationism taught as science their next step will be the stork theory in biology.
I just can't wait for my grandkids to be telling me how they learned about Intelligent Falling in school...
While there may be some way to generate some statistical evidences in favour of astrology etc., creationism can never be a subject that can belong in science curriculum. If ever some succeed in imposing creationism in a science class, then science will not be science anymore and that will be a dark day, IMO. Science has a definite method and science should remain science.
That said, I will also opine that a tendency of some on the side of science to stretch infallible evidences of evolution, to the realm of origin of intelligence and life is misplaced. But possibly this dialectical exchange is also a part of evolution.
Breathe
Hostis humani generis
Quite frequently.
There's nothing in creationism to teach as a belief, except for "God did it the way we are now". Nothing else is explained. I also think it cheapens one's religious beliefs significantly. If one's belief has to survive on "God did it" or even a "God of the gaps", then that is a real shame.
Oh, that.
Yeah... it's in Dayton, Tennessee.
In 1925.
But don't feel bad that you didn't hear. It seems that lots of people didn't.
Photonic
Ad astra!
Those "some" would be proponents of abiogenesis, not just evolution. But abiogenesis does have experimental backing. They succeeded in producing organic compounds in controlled lab experiments. Basically the exact same thing abiogenesis supporting scientists have been saying it might have happened.
It doesn't matter what YOU believe, facts are facts and we need to be teaching children the best, well supported facts in science, or any subject for that matter.
Kilgore Trout
Misanthropic Humanist
Not so much of a debate as a thorough intellectual spanking of creationists by rational people.