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Which is “the first, the greatest and mightiest of all books”?

Vinayaka

Vinayaka

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MJFlores said:
But sometimes the greatest and the mightiest are not expressed in US$ or the number of books sold.
So we would explore other spiritual books.
Like the Vedas.
Who wrote the Vedas?
I'm not a Hindu to competently answer the question.
How about a Hindu scholar?
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The Vedas were first recited, from father to son, from Guru to disciple, and passed down orally. Eventually, as a written Sanskrit developed, they were recorded on leaves, but had to be re-scribed every hundred years or so. As for age, nobody knows. All we can say is 'Before recorded history."
 
sealchan

sealchan

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paarsurrey said:
Which is “the first, the greatest and mightiest of all books”?

Thread open for all people who belong to a religion or no-religion, please.

Regards
___________

Bahaullah writes:

“Gracious God! In His Book, which He hath entitled “Qayyúmu’l-Asmá,”—the first, the greatest and mightiest of all books—He prophesied His own martyrdom. In it is this passage: “O thou Remnant of God! I have sacrificed myself wholly for Thee; I have accepted curses for Thy sake; and have yearned for naught but martyrdom in the path of Thy love. Sufficient Witness unto me is God, the Exalted, the Protector, the Ancient of Days!”

Page 231 Kitab-i-Iqan or the “Book of Certitude” written by Bahaullah.
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For me...

https://www.amazon.com/Alligator-Na...k&qid=1553016827&s=gateway&sprefix=a+is+for+a

...is the first of books. All others merely elaborated on this book's foundations.
 
ManSinha

ManSinha

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Vinayaka said:
The Vedas were first recited, from father to son, from Guru to disciple, and passed down orally. Eventually, as a written Sanskrit developed, they were recorded on leaves, but had to be re-scribed every hundred years or so. As for age, nobody knows. All we can say is 'Before recorded history."
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The Vedas are widely thought to be the word of the Divine - the word I believe is apaureshaya - not of human or earthly making
 
Vinayaka

Vinayaka

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Premium Member
ManSinha said:
The Vedas are widely thought to be the word of the Divine - the word I believe is apaureshaya - not of human or earthly making
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Yes, I was just giving a basic answer to the other poster who asked. I certainly don't want to get into the ethnocentric argument about whose book is the best, I'll still go with my original answer, the book of life.
 
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InChrist

InChrist

Free4ever
paarsurrey said:
That does not make a one book, these are two books.

Then the OT consists of:
The Old Testament contains 39 (Protestant), 46(Catholic), or more (Orthodox and other) books, divided, very broadly, into the Pentateuch (Torah), the historical books, the "wisdom" books and the prophets.
Old Testament - Wikipedia
Old Testament - Wikipedia

Then the NT consists of:
The second part is the Greek New Testament, containing 27 books; the four Canonical gospels, Acts of the Apostles, 21 Epistles or letters and the Book of Revelation. The Catholic Church and Eastern Christian churches hold that certain deuterocanonical books and passages are part of the Old Testament canon.
Books of the Bible - Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Books_of_the_Bible

So, it is not a one book. Right, please?
Regards
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True, the Bible is a collection of documents/books written by approximately 40 different authors.
 
ManSinha

ManSinha

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InChrist said:
True, the Bible is a collection of documents/books written by approximately 40 different authors.
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But when the average person says "The Bible" is that not referring to both the OT and NT?
In which case it should be taken as one book with 2 volumes
 
InChrist

InChrist

Free4ever
ManSinha said:
But when the average person says "The Bible" is that not referring to both the OT and NT?
In which case it should be taken as one book with 2 volumes
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Yes, usually when someone refers to "the Bible" they mean one book which includes both the OT and NT, which in reality includes several books.documents, as I said earlier. I suppose you could call then volumes, if you like. Basically they are testimonies of Jesus Christ.
 
paarsurrey

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
ManSinha said:
That is pretty subjective

There are many of us on RF that would say they have seen examples of close mindedness - and then there would be others that deny it
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But nobody says/claims it in the first person singular. It is said about the others. Right, please?
Regards
 
paarsurrey

paarsurrey

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InChrist said:
True, the Bible is a collection of documents/books written by approximately 40 different authors.
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How would one like to compare with the book "Qayyúmu’l-Asmá" mentioned by Bahaullah? Kindly read post #40 in the thread, please. Does one have a counter-claim to Bahaullah's claim, please?

Regards
 
MJFlores

MJFlores

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Vinayaka said:
The Vedas were first recited, from father to son, from Guru to disciple, and passed down orally. Eventually, as a written Sanskrit developed, they were recorded on leaves, but had to be re-scribed every hundred years or so. As for age, nobody knows. All we can say is 'Before recorded history."
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Before recorded history....

Prehistory traditionally refers to the span of time before recorded history, ending with the invention of writing systems. ... Protohistory refers to the transition period between prehistory and history, after the advent of literacy in a society but before the writings of the first historians.

And the author/s or writer/s of the Vedas were....

From a Hindu academia point of view


Jay Lakhani (born December 5, 1948) is a theoretical physicist and a speaker on Spiritual humanism. He is the editor of two books related to the teaching of Hinduism in schools in the UK; Hinduism for Schools and Primary Hinduism. He received an MSc in Theoretical Physics in 1970 and is the first Hindu tutor to be appointed by Eton College for religious study.[1] He is also an Education Director for the Hindu Council(UK) and the head of The Hindu Academy(UK).

Jay Lakhani - Wikipedia

I think Buddhism's The Tripitaka (Pali Canon), Mahayana Sutras and the Tibetan Book of the Dead are three major noncanonical Buddhist texts. The Pali Canon, which means “the word of Buddha,” includes some of the Buddha's discourse, but it also incorporates the teachings of his pupils.

The Tripitaka do not have named writers or scribes.

 
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QuestioningMind

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paarsurrey said:
Which is “the first, the greatest and mightiest of all books”?

Thread open for all people who belong to a religion or no-religion, please.

Regards
___________

Bahaullah writes:

“Gracious God! In His Book, which He hath entitled “Qayyúmu’l-Asmá,”—the first, the greatest and mightiest of all books—He prophesied His own martyrdom. In it is this passage: “O thou Remnant of God! I have sacrificed myself wholly for Thee; I have accepted curses for Thy sake; and have yearned for naught but martyrdom in the path of Thy love. Sufficient Witness unto me is God, the Exalted, the Protector, the Ancient of Days!”

Page 231 Kitab-i-Iqan or the “Book of Certitude” written by Bahaullah.
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Clearly it is the dictionary, since it contains every single other book ever written.
 
paarsurrey

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
ManSinha said:
But when the average person says "The Bible" is that not referring to both the OT and NT?
In which case it should be taken as one book with 2 volumes
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The Judaism people won't agree to it. Primarily OT belongs to Judaism people and they reject NT altogether. Even Jesus and Mary did not believe in NT, they never read it. Right, please?

If Judaism have a counter-claim about OT or Torah in comparison with "Qayyúmu’l-Asmá" the one mentioned by Bahaullah, they will claim it separately, I think and will not join with the Christianity people.

But none of them have so far in the thread done it.

Regards
 
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