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Which is “the first, the greatest and mightiest of all books”?

TransmutingSoul

One Planet, One People, Please!
Premium Member
Just to inform my friends of the Bahaism people that I have today completed my second reading of Kitab-i-Iqan. In this reading I was reading its Arabic translation and side by side seeing/comparing it with its English translation.

Regards

Well done to you.

I can only read the English translation, to which I have read quite a few times, each time another pearl of great price can be seen in the ocean of words.

"O my Lord, increase my knowledge from more to more." – Taha, 115.

Regards Tony
 

InvestigateTruth

Veteran Member
It is surprising that a Book that has been claimed/declared by Bahallah as the
“the first, the greatest and mightiest of all books” has not been read by a firm follower of him like our friend @Tony Bristow-Stagg .

Any other member/friend belonging to the Bahaism people who has read the entire book ''Qayyúmu'l-Asmá'" from cover to cover please.

Regards
There is online, one in original Arabic. I have read some. What might be interesting, it has the style of the Arabic Quran, and the Bab said, 'if you believe in Quran, here is a Book like it!', He then said: 'I was never trained in religions or Arabic, as I am only 25 years old, who is a Merchant. The same God whi revealed the Quran to Muhammad, has revealed this Book to Me'
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
There is online, one in original Arabic. I have read some. What might be interesting, it has the style of the Arabic Quran, and the Bab said, 'if you believe in Quran, here is a Book like it!', He then said: 'I was never trained in religions or Arabic, as I am only 25 years old, who is a Merchant. The same God whi revealed the Quran to Muhammad, has revealed this Book to Me'

Please provide me the link of the original one in Arabic.

I understand that the book is on the tafsir/commentary of Surah/chapter Yousuf/Joseph of Holy Quran. I love the Surah so it will be interesting to read the book Qayyum-ul-Asma by Bab.

Regards
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
It’s a religion.
Why do you say please and then regards in nearly every response?

Sorry, I didn't know that "The Gospel of the Flying Spaghetti Monster" is a religious book of the Pastafarian religion.

I just like writing please and regards.

Regards
 

charlie sc

Well-Known Member
Sorry, I didn't know that "The Gospel of the Flying Spaghetti Monster" is a religious book of the Pastafarian religion.

I just like writing please and regards.

Regards

It's ok :p

I'd think most Pastafarians are atheists, but I don't think most atheists are Pastafarians. Besides, I'm not sure if you need to be religious in order to be accepted. Look at Judaism: if you're mother is Jewish, you're considered Jewish no matter what you believe.
Pastafarianism has been legalised as a religion in New-Zealand, so it's gaining some ground.
His Noodliness believes in you even though you don't believe in Him.
 
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paarsurrey

Veteran Member
Those are different categories.

The first will be anything from ancient cuneiform tablets to Egyptian papyrus writings to Gutenberg's Bible, depending on how one defines a book.

The greatest... is awfully subjective a call.
There must be thousands of contenders with no particular clear advantage over each other. I would include the Tao Te Ching and the Vedas among the contenders, personally. Also something from George Martin and Edgar Alan Poe.

The mightiest would probably be some form of literacy manual.

I agree with the magenta part.
I have neither read Tao Te Ching nor anything from George Martin and Edgar Alan Poe. Since you have recommended them, so I intend to read them.

Please elaborate about "some form of literacy manual".

Regards
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
It's ok :p

I'd think most Pastafarians are atheists, but I don't think most atheists are Pastafarians. Besides, I'm not sure if you need to be religious in order to be accepted. Look at Judaism: if you're mother is Jewish, you're considered Jewish no matter what you believe.
Pastafarianism has been legalised as a religion in New-Zealand, so it's gaining some ground.
His Noodliness believes in your even though you don't believe in Him.
Thanks and regards.
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
Please provide me the link of the original one in Arabic.

I understand that the book is on the tafsir/commentary of Surah/chapter Yousuf/Joseph of Holy Quran. I love the Surah so it will be interesting to read the book Qayyum-ul-Asma by Bab.

Regards
Thanks for liking my post.
Regards
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
Well done to you.

I can only read the English translation, to which I have read quite a few times, each time another pearl of great price can be seen in the ocean of words.

"O my Lord, increase my knowledge from more to more." – Taha, 115.

Regards Tony
"O my Lord, increase my knowledge from more to more." – Taha, 115"
It is also hinted in the first Surah/Chapter of Quran named Al-Fatiha, it is summary/introduction of Quran. It is also named as Ummul-kitab or Mother of the Book.

Regards
 

TransmutingSoul

One Planet, One People, Please!
Premium Member
"O my Lord, increase my knowledge from more to more." – Taha, 115"
It is also hinted in the first Surah/Chapter of Quran named Al-Fatiha, it is summary/introduction of Quran. It is also named as Ummul-kitab or Mother of the Book.

Regards

From Memory, it has een said each Messenger brings a Mother book. The Persian Bayan is the Mother Book of the Babi Dispensation and the Kitáb-i-Aqdas of the Baha'i dispensation. The Kitáb-i-Aqdas completes the Bayan. The Twin Messengers can not be seperated.

Regards Tony
 

Willamena

Just me
Premium Member
Yes, necessarily. You can be a Pastafarian without being a theist, but you can't be an atheist if you believe in His Noodliness.
Unless you use definitions apart from the mainstream.
No, not necessarily.

Many people believe in parody, irony, and trope.
 

charlie sc

Well-Known Member
No, not necessarily.

Many people believe in parody, irony, and trope.

Yes, necessarily :p I didn't say people that believe in parody. I said people who actually believe in His Noodliness. By definition, if they exist, this makes them theists.
 

Willamena

Just me
Premium Member
Yes, necessarily :p I didn't say people that believe in parody. I said people who actually believe in His Noodliness. By definition, if they exist, this makes them theists.
I will admit that there are foolish people in the world. But that doesn't make them theists. :p
 

charlie sc

Well-Known Member
I will admit that there are foolish people in the world. But that doesn't make them theists. :p

I'm not sure why they're foolish. His Noodliness has as much equal evidence as other religions. Anyway.

Why wouldn't it make them theists? Perhaps you can define theist for me.
 

Willamena

Just me
Premium Member
I'm not sure why they're foolish. His Noodliness has as much equal evidence as other religions. Anyway.
...which is either an Atheist thing to say, or a foolish one. ;)

Why wouldn't it make them theists? Perhaps you can define theist for me.
A theist is one who believes in God or gods rather than tropes and irony.
 
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