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Which is worse - to be hurt or to hurt others?

Ori

Angel slayer
I believe that any wrong done to me I can forgive, but I cannot forgive myself for hurting others.
 

huajiro

Well-Known Member
I believe that from one's perspective, getting hurt by others is better. If you hurt others, you are not only hurting someone, you are hurting yourself, but then, so is someone else if they hurt you.

Would it be enough to say that it is better to be hurt and learning from it?

:)
 

EnhancedSpirit

High Priestess
I'm glad you asked. If you are hurt. It hurts, yeah, and that is not something any one wants.

But if you hurt others, by the law of Karma, or the Christians' "you reap what you sow", the spritual law of prosperity, what you do comes back to you, the hurt will come back to you multiplied. Which is way worse than the first.
 

Terrywoodenpic

Oldest Heretic
Both are sin. but you can stop your self sinning. Thoeses that sin against you should be forgiven.
Both are covered in the Lords Prayer.(sinned and sinned against)

Terry
_____________________________
Blessed are those who bring peace, they shall be children of God
 

michel

Administrator Emeritus
Staff member
Terrywoodenpic said:
Both are sin. but you can stop your self sinning. Thoeses that sin against you should be forgiven.
Both are covered in the Lords Prayer.(sinned and sinned against)

Terry
_____________________________
Blessed are those who bring peace, they shall be children of God
Very well said; I hadn't even thought of the Lords Prayer - one up to you!:)
You must spread some Karma around before giving it to Terrywoodenpic again.:banghead3

 

Fluffy

A fool
I agree with you Ori but for different reasons. I view myself as on a lower level to everyone else and therefore pain suffered on my part is not equivilant to pain suffered on the part of another.

Im very selfish sometimes, however, and often hurt other people when I am hurting when it would be far more productive to just cheer them up instead. It is something I am continuely trying to refine :).

Having said that, I think it is worse for me to be hurt since this often causes pain (via my actions) on the parts of others. At least if just another person is hurt I can help them deal with their pain whereas I am useless when I am in a state of pain.
 

Aqualung

Tasty
I say hurting someone else. If you are hurt, that's all there is. But I know that when I hurt someone else, I feel bad, so I'm hurt too. Hurting someone else, at least for me, hurts two people.
 

kreeden

Virus of the Mind
I kinda agree with Huajiro . One hurt is better then two .

And we are often harder on ourselves then on others . But they say the love starts with loving one's self . So if we can forgive others , we should also be able to forgive ourselves .
 

turk179

I smell something....
I would rather be hurt than to hurt someone else. I usually feel more pain by causing someone else pain than any pain someone could inflict on me. It is to bad my present situation isn't as simple as that concept. Sometimes even the basic principle of hurt or be hurt becomes complicated.
 

Katzpur

Not your average Mormon
orichalcum said:
I believe that any wrong done to me I can forgive, but I cannot forgive myself for hurting others.
It's very admirable to be able to forgive others, but I think it is also important to learn to forgive ourselves. If we believe that Christ died so that we might be forgiven for our sins, we need to recognize that God will no longer remember the sins of those who are sincerely repentant. I think that if we can't forgive ourselves when we know He has forgiven us, it's almost as if we aren't accepting the validity of His sacrifice. Does that make sense?
 

Scuba Pete

Le plongeur avec attitude...
You guys are my kinda people. (That should really scare you! :D )

I would much rather undergo pain than have anyone else do so. This is not always possible.

But ask yourself. Are you even willing to be inconvenienced for someone? How about that guy that just cut you off in traffic.? I would suggest that if you are not willing to be inconvenienced than your belief that you would want to suffer rather than cause suffering may be misplaced. :D
 

turk179

I smell something....
NetDoc said:
But ask yourself. Are you even willing to be inconvenienced for someone? How about that guy that just cut you off in traffic.? I would suggest that if you are not willing to be inconvenienced than your belief that you would want to suffer rather than cause suffering may be misplaced. :D

I think there is a difference between causing someone physical or emotional pain and stoping someone from cutting you off.

I guess that would be a rude hand gesture.
:tsk: :jiggy:
 

Katzpur

Not your average Mormon
NetDoc said:
But ask yourself. Are you even willing to be inconvenienced for someone? How about that guy that just cut you off in traffic.? I would suggest that if you are not willing to be inconvenienced than your belief that you would want to suffer rather than cause suffering may be misplaced. :D
Very good point. I think you are absolutely right.
 
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