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Which non-God beings do you believe in

Check all that you believe in. Don't be afraid, in this forum no one will make fun. Explain in post


  • Total voters
    23

InChrist

Free4ever
I was inspired to develop this poll after watching videos of La Llorona witnesses. One site claimed that 60% of Mexicans have seen or heard her, but its the internet so how trustworthy is that? LOL I also find it fascinating that over 30% of the Irish believe in Leprechauns.

BTW, I accidently included Chupacabra with the shapeshifters. It should be with the scary evil creatures, but I'm unable to edit the poll.

I figure this forum is a good place to just have a great share without criticism.

Please elaborate your answers in a post.

As for me, I am uninclined to believe in these sort of beings, but I'm still open to the possibility, or something real behind the legends. La Llorona is definitely my favorite.

Enjoy!
I believe in One Creator God who is Spirit. Other than God, I believe spiritual beings exist such as good angels exist, as well as fallen angels; Satan and the demons.
 

IndigoChild5559

Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
I believe in One Creator God who is Spirit. Other than God, I believe spiritual beings exist such as good angels exist, as well as fallen angels; Satan and the demons.
I'm fine with that. However, the name of this thread specifies that the conversation is about non-God entities.
 

osgart

Nothing my eye, Something for sure
Eternal life forms is something I hoped was a reality because I just don't think that life comes from outta nowhere from non living things. I'm sure the foundational existence is teeming with life that has always been.

No angels, no demons, no Gods. I've safely ruled out all such things because of the reckless, indifferent, and often brutal nature of our world.

No interest in demons, nor angels because that's just plain absurd.

Aliens are possible, but I highly doubt they'd reach us. That's a long shot idea.
 

Sgt. Pepper

All you need is love.
I believe in a wide range of supernatural phenomena, including many different spirits, entities, cryptids, and extraterrestrial beings. I'll also include shadow people and black-eyed children. I believe that popular legends also contain elements of truth. Therefore, I checked each category in the poll. However, I don't refer to any non-human entity as a demon. I no longer believe in Satan or demons, and I consider my former beliefs about them to be indoctrinated.
 

InChrist

Free4ever
I'm fine with that. However, the name of this thread specifies that the conversation is about non-God entities.
I consider angels to be non-God entities. As well, satan and the demons. Maybe I should not have mentioned God, but was simply clarifying that I believe in One Creator God in contrast to the other spiritual non-Gods.
 

mangalavara

नमस्कार
Premium Member
Please elaborate your answers in a post.

As a Hindu who believes in them, I believe there are beings such as gandharvas and apsarās. The former are celestial musicians. The latter are analogous to nymphs.

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Public domain image of a 12th century Indian sculpture of an apsarā

Lately, I have been interested in iyeler (pl. of iye) or ‘Owners.’ They are the spirits of place within native Turkic religion. They are said to have come down like rain when the divinity Erlik was cast out of Uçmag or Heaven and sent to Tamag or the Netherworld. Native Turkic religion also has the concept of nature spirits that are in mountains, rivers, and trees. Lastly, there is also a concept of totem animals in native Turkic religion, and I want to look more into it.

I believe any such beings would be natural rather than "supernatural," since, by definition, if they exist in this world, then they're part of the natural world; we just don't know much about them if they do.

This is basically my view. In my worldview, such beings are products of Prakṛti or Nature albeit on a more subtle level.

I can't vote in the poll because I don't agree with the classification or some of the assumptions made in the classifications.

When I saw devas as part of the choices, I disagreed with that particular assumption. Devas in Hinduism such as Indra, Varuṇa, Mitra, and Sūrya are what people call gods in the English language. I like the terms deities and divinities for etymological reasons though.
 

Quintessence

Consults with Trees
Staff member
Premium Member
When I saw devas as part of the choices, I disagreed with that particular assumption. Devas in Hinduism such as Indra, Varuṇa, Mitra, and Sūrya are what people call gods in the English language.
Yeah, I noticed that. Same deal with Kami - gods, in Japanese religion (Shinto). Then, various "nature spirits" (Kami, for example) in other tradition are considered subjects of worship and reverence (aka, gods) too. Demons too. Anything can be worshiped and considered a god or deity. There seems to be a tendency for non-polytheist cultures to demote anything that isn't their god to some non-god being or mix them up together in some odd ways. Fair I suppose since monotheists consider their god to be supreme over all others, so at best all others would be "lesser" in some way.
 

Colt

Well-Known Member
I was inspired to develop this poll after watching videos of La Llorona witnesses. One site claimed that 60% of Mexicans have seen or heard her, but its the internet so how trustworthy is that? LOL I also find it fascinating that over 30% of the Irish believe in Leprechauns.

BTW, I accidently included Chupacabra with the shapeshifters. It should be with the scary evil creatures, but I'm unable to edit the poll.

I figure this forum is a good place to just have a great share without criticism.

Please elaborate your answers in a post.

As for me, I am uninclined to believe in these sort of beings, but I'm still open to the possibility, or something real behind the legends. La Llorona is definitely my favorite.

Enjoy!
In a universe teaming with life I believe in numerous celestial beings.
 

JustGeorge

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
As a Hindu who believes in them, I believe there are beings such as gandharvas and apsarās. The former are celestial musicians. The latter are analogous to nymphs.

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Public domain image of a 12th century Indian sculpture of an apsarā

Lately, I have been interested in iyeler (pl. of iye) or ‘Owners.’ They are the spirits of place within native Turkic religion. They are said to have come down like rain when the divinity Erlik was cast out of Uçmag or Heaven and sent to Tamag or the Netherworld. Native Turkic religion also has the concept of nature spirits that are in mountains, rivers, and trees. Lastly, there is also a concept of totem animals in native Turkic religion, and I want to look more into it.
First off, I want to say how much I appreciate how well read on various religions you are. You always have something interesting to say.

I haven't heard of iyeler, but I've seen this concept of spirits of place in many religions... We honor our 'spirit of place' with a shrine in the front yard. He's an actual being; my husband can see him(he was terrified of him for awhile, until he realized what he was).
 

9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
I was inspired to develop this poll after watching videos of La Llorona witnesses. One site claimed that 60% of Mexicans have seen or heard her, but its the internet so how trustworthy is that? LOL I also find it fascinating that over 30% of the Irish believe in Leprechauns.

BTW, I accidently included Chupacabra with the shapeshifters. It should be with the scary evil creatures, but I'm unable to edit the poll.

I figure this forum is a good place to just have a great share without criticism.

Please elaborate your answers in a post.

As for me, I am uninclined to believe in these sort of beings, but I'm still open to the possibility, or something real behind the legends. La Llorona is definitely my favorite.

Enjoy!
I was thinking about where to draw the line for "non-god beings". I certainly believe in some that technically qualify (e.g. other humans and myself), but I assume that's not the sort of thing you're trying to get at.
 

mangalavara

नमस्कार
Premium Member
First off, I want to say how much I appreciate how well read on various religions you are. You always have something interesting to say.

That is so kind, thank you. In another thread, I'll share some videos about Turkic religion that you might enjoy. It is a topic that has captivated my interest lately.

I haven't heard of iyeler, but I've seen this concept of spirits of place in many religions...

I had the feeling that you are familiar with the concept. From what I recall, there are spirits of place in the Roman, Germanic, and Slavic religions. The Roman one is called a lar. Norse religion has the vættur. The domovoy is the household spirit in Russian religion.

As I learn about Turkic religion, I work on my vocabulary of it. At this time, I do not know a lot about Turkic languages and cognates. From what I have seen on Wiktionary and Wikipedia so far, iye (with uppercase: İye) is specifically the Turkish term for the spirit of place. It means 'Owner' or 'Possessor.' The plural is iyeler (with uppercase: İyeler). There are various kinds of iyeler such as the ev iyesi, the household spirit. Whereas ev iyesi is the Turkish term, ev iyəsi is the Azerbaijani cognate. I try to find the Azerbaijani cognates with respect to the names and terminology of Turkic religion because I feel more drawn toward Azerbaijan than Turkey. Turkic languages, I must add, sound awesome and really cool to my hearing.

We honor our 'spirit of place' with a shrine in the front yard. He's an actual being; my husband can see him(he was terrified of him for awhile, until he realized what he was).

That's great that you have the shrine. If you don't mind me asking, how often do you honor your spirit of place?

I have been honoring the ev iyesi recently. There is a beautiful mug reserved specifically for him. When I bring home a new bottle or carton of milk, I offer him the first of it by pouring it into the mug and placing it on the TV stand (I don't use the television, by the way). There is a feeling of more balance in the room now. :)
 

JustGeorge

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
That is so kind, thank you. In another thread, I'll share some videos about Turkic religion that you might enjoy. It is a topic that has captivated my interest lately.
Sounds good! :)
I had the feeling that you are familiar with the concept. From what I recall, there are spirits of place in the Roman, Germanic, and Slavic religions. The Roman one is called a lar. Norse religion has the vættur. The domovoy is the household spirit in Russian religion.

As I learn about Turkic religion, I work on my vocabulary of it. At this time, I do not know a lot about Turkic languages and cognates. From what I have seen on Wiktionary and Wikipedia so far, iye (with uppercase: İye) is specifically the Turkish term for the spirit of place. It means 'Owner' or 'Possessor.' The plural is iyeler (with uppercase: İyeler). There are various kinds of iyeler such as the ev iyesi, the household spirit. Whereas ev iyesi is the Turkish term, ev iyəsi is the Azerbaijani cognate. I try to find the Azerbaijani cognates with respect to the names and terminology of Turkic religion because I feel more drawn toward Azerbaijan than Turkey. Turkic languages, I must add, sound awesome and really cool to my hearing.
As an added note: how do you keep track of all the vocabulary? Its something I struggle a bit with.
That's great that you have the shrine. If you don't mind me asking, how often do you honor your spirit of place?
As life here is Chaotic, everything is done as can be, and as relevant. We grilled out(all vegetarian friendly!) on the first day of fall, and I set aside a little bit of everything for him and left it on the flat log that sits in the center of the area. Sometimes I'll find something when I'm walking that I might leave out. My husband sometimes leaves out a cigarette for him.
I have been honoring the ev iyesi recently. There is a beautiful mug reserved specifically for him. When I bring home a new bottle or carton of milk, I offer him the first of it by pouring it into the mug and placing it on the TV stand (I don't use the television, by the way). There is a feeling of more balance in the room now. :)
That sounds wonderful! I'm sure that helps you feel more at 'home'.
 
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