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Which Progressive Policies Do You Support?

Which basic “Progressive” policies do you support. (multiple choice)

  • A woman has the right to choose if her uterus is emptied, at least till the point of fetal viability

    Votes: 18 66.7%
  • The death penalty should be replaced with life in prison with zero chance of parole.

    Votes: 16 59.3%
  • Till current immigration can be fixed, let current illegal immigrants work toward citizenship.

    Votes: 13 48.1%
  • Return taxes on the ultra-rich back to where they were in the 1950s and 60s.

    Votes: 16 59.3%
  • Modestly cut military spending.

    Votes: 15 55.6%
  • Increase spending on public education, science, and infrastructure.

    Votes: 20 74.1%
  • Basic healthcare and medicines from the government (like the rest of the modern world)

    Votes: 20 74.1%
  • Government should stay out of our private lives (ie love and marry who you want)

    Votes: 23 85.2%
  • All firearms registered. All owners must take regular training and mental testing or lose weapons.

    Votes: 16 59.3%
  • 1 human = 1 vote. Cash and companies removed from all levels of government.

    Votes: 21 77.8%

  • Total voters
    27

sun rise

The world is on fire
Premium Member
Less so than the conservative questions, I still am not voting yes/no without qualification:

  1. A woman has the right to choose if her uterus is emptied, at least till the point of fetal viability - not at least but right to abortion stops at viability.
  2. The death penalty should be replaced with life in prison with zero chance of parole. - sometimes yes, sometimes no.
  3. Till current immigration can be fixed, let current illegal immigrants work toward citizenship. - yes. If they are law abiding etc.
  4. Return taxes on the ultra-rich back to where they were in the 1950s and 60s.- probably too far but definitely increase.
  5. Modestly cut military spending. - yes
  6. Increase spending on public education, science, and infrastructure. - yes
  7. Basic healthcare and medicines from the government (like the rest of the modern world) - Again, universal coverage but the Swiss mixed system would be OK with me.
  8. Government should stay out of our private lives (ie love and marry who you want) - again separate a contract between two consenting adults and what religion means by marriage.
  9. All firearms registered. All owners must take regular training and mental testing or lose weapons. - I'm not sure mental testing is viable.
  10. 1 human = 1 vote. Cash and companies removed from all levels of government. - yes although with the current Court this might take a Constitutional amendment.
 

Daemon Sophic

Avatar in flux
Not really understanding your last question.
The last point would basically mean overturn the SCOTUS mistake of Citizens United, wherein donations to political campaigns (hidden from all scrutiny - no matter the massive amount of money), could be given on behalf of a company/corporation, since (in their mistaken reasoning) cash is a form of free speech, and corporations are effectively people/citizens of the USA as much as any human being, just like you or me. :facepalm:
It was effectively the nail in the coffin, turning our democratic republic into a plutocracy.
 

Daemon Sophic

Avatar in flux
You forgot to include an issue about protecting wildlife and the environment.
Good point, but the computer wouldn’t let me add enough poll items.:confounded:
I suppose the increased funding for education, science, and infrastructure will have to be understood as including carbon taxes, and shifting away from dependence on non-renewable energy sources, both foreign and domestic. :shrug:
 

sealchan

Well-Known Member
  1. A woman has the right to choose if her uterus is emptied, at least till the point of fetal viability - Yes and further development and funding of education of children about sex, relationships, etc...in order to fully ensure that as much knowledge is made available to everyone such that situations such as this are minimized
  2. The death penalty should be replaced with life in prison with zero chance of parole - not sure
  3. Till current immigration can be fixed, let current illegal immigrants work toward citizenship - yes...current immigration isn't necessarily even a problem
  4. Return taxes on the ultra-rich back to where they were in the 1950s and 60s - increase taxes on ultra rich, reduce exemptions
  5. Modestly cut military spending - not sure, we should definitely improve support for active military and veterans
  6. Increase spending on public education, science, and infrastructure - no brainer, yes unless we want to fall behind...further
  7. Basic healthcare and medicines from the government (like the rest of the modern world) - probably, if the Republicans won't work with Romneycare then isn't really much choice
  8. Government should stay out of our private lives (ie love and marry who you want) - yes
  9. All firearms registered. All owners must take regular training and mental testing or lose weapons - I don't think that this will impact mass shootings all that much; if law enforcement thinks it would be helpful elsewhere then yes
  10. 1 human = 1 vote. Cash and companies removed from all levels of government - certainly
 

Daemon Sophic

Avatar in flux
@sun rise, post: 5842717

Less so than the conservative questions, I still am not voting yes/no without qualification:

  1. A woman has the right to choose if her uterus is emptied, at least till the point of fetal viability - not at least but right to abortion stops at viability. Agreed.
  2. ....
  3. ....
  4. ....
  5. ....
  6. ...
  7. Basic healthcare and medicines from the government (like the rest of the modern world) - Again, universal coverage but the Swiss mixed system would be OK with me. Also agreed. I seriously doubt that we could or should go “all the way”. but the poll options wouldn’t let me rant on with such details. :rolleyes:
  8. Government should stay out of our private lives (ie love and marry who you want) - again separate a contract between two consenting adults and what religion means by marriage. Yep. Government doesn’t get to tell religions who they want to hate (and lose from their coffers).....as long as the religion does no harm, and foments no harm.
  9. .....
  10. ......
 

Valjean

Veteran Member
Premium Member
  1. Some I agree with, others I'd modify.

  2. The death penalty should be replaced with life in prison with zero chance of parole. Punishment should be replaced with correction. Prison should focus on fixing what's wrong with the criminal and creating well adjusted, productive members of society.
  3. It's worked elsewhere...
  4. Return taxes on the ultra-rich back to where they were in the 1950s and 60s. 91% might be overkill -- though it did contribute to America's Golden Era of prosperity, rapid industrial growth and a growing middle class.
  5. Excellent results have been achieved elsewhere with only 40% or 50%.
  6. Modestly cut military spending. Modestly?! We could cut it to a small fraction of current spending and still be the strongest military power the world's ever known.
  7. There is no existential, external threat to the US.

  1. Basic healthcare and medicines from the government (like the rest of the modern world)With a few exceptions, this is not how the rest of the world operates. Most of the developed countries have variations on Bismark or Beveridge systems: Five Countries - Health Care Systems -- The Four Basic Models | Sick Around The World | FRONTLINE | PBS
  1. Government should stay out of our private lives (ie love and marry who you want)Government should involve itself in some aspects of our lives and keep out of others. Who you marry would be one of the latter.
  2. All firearms registered. All owners must take regular training and mental testing or lose weapons.Treat gun licenses like driver's licenses -- Review competency regularly and require insurance.
[I have no idea why this post is auto formatting and preventing me from making corrections. Pay no attention to the numbers.]:confused:
 
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Mindmaster

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
On the fence about captial punishment. Wasn't sure about cuts to military spending. I am not sure what this would look like and believe that I might support some cuts and might some spending proposals.

I'm on the fence about most of it besides infrastructure spending and 1 vote. :D

But, that being said I don't like the government determining what to do with my money because historically they completely suck at it. So, my philosophy is more practical than nebulous altruism -- stay out of my wallet.

Regarding capital punishment it's cheaper to spend $0.50 than house people for 30+ years. If sentence is life no parole just shoot 'em, talk about wasting money.
 

Shad

Veteran Member
I could only vote for "Government should stay out of our private lives (ie love and marry who you want)". A non-vote does not equate opposition but reflects no support due to lack of details, disagreement over methods and/or disagreement with the interpretation of cause and effect.
 

osgart

Nothing my eye, Something for sure
The last point would basically mean overturn the SCOTUS mistake of Citizens United, wherein donations to political campaigns (hidden from all scrutiny - no matter the massive amount of money), could be given on behalf of a company/corporation, since (in their mistaken reasoning) cash is a form of free speech, and corporations are effectively people/citizens of the USA as much as any human being, just like you or me. :facepalm:
It was effectively the nail in the coffin, turning our democratic republic into a plutocracy.

Flagrant immorality that deal is.
 

Cacotopia

Let's go full Trottle
I say replace all life sentences with the death penalty.

The entire prison system in America is effed up in the first place, where society reacts to a criminals path at the last chapter of their criminal life instead of in the beginning which would have avoided most of this problem in the first place. It would be initially more expensive to incorporate a system that would intervene and try to rehabilitate criminals on their first offense. And save 100 fold in the long run.
 

Daemon Sophic

Avatar in flux
......

......If sentence is life no parole just shoot 'em, talk about wasting money.

I say replace all life sentences with the death penalty.

The entire prison system in America is effed up in the first place, where society reacts to a criminals path at the last chapter of their criminal life instead of in the beginning which would have avoided most of this problem in the first place. It would be initially more expensive to incorporate a system that would intervene and try to rehabilitate criminals on their first offense. And save 100 fold in the long run.
Hmmmm...
I used to be for the death penalty, and even today I see the occasional case that makes me want to righteously snuff the criminal scum that killed....etc....etc...
and while I agree with @Cacotopia that using prison as a rehab and retraining system, that truly would be MUCH more cost effective for our nation, I cannot agree with the death penalty precisely due to the failures of our “justice” system.
There are no ‘take backs’ after an execution, and there have been scores of men (?and women?) found to he innocent after rotting on death row, usually for many years.
Life without parole allows for the occasional “whoops! We’re sorry!” event.
 

BSM1

What? Me worry?
The last point would basically mean overturn the SCOTUS mistake of Citizens United, wherein donations to political campaigns (hidden from all scrutiny - no matter the massive amount of money), could be given on behalf of a company/corporation, since (in their mistaken reasoning) cash is a form of free speech, and corporations are effectively people/citizens of the USA as much as any human being, just like you or me. :facepalm:
It was effectively the nail in the coffin, turning our democratic republic into a plutocracy.

Can't find any reason to disagree with you on this one. Don't believe you should limit or stop donations from people or businesses, but full disclosure should be embraced.
 

Valjean

Veteran Member
Premium Member
I say replace all life sentences with the death penalty.

The entire prison system in America is effed up in the first place, where society reacts to a criminals path at the last chapter of their criminal life instead of in the beginning which would have avoided most of this problem in the first place. It would be initially more expensive to incorporate a system that would intervene and try to rehabilitate criminals on their first offense. And save 100 fold in the long run.
Generally. the US prison system does not rehabilitate, doesn't teach social or job skills, doesn't teach inmates how to act in normal society or interact with ordinary citizens. It's a warehouse for the mentally challenged, who generally go untreated. It's militarized and regimented. Inmates are disrespected and forced to comply with senseless rules. It's dangerous. It produces social types often worse than those that went in, and unable to navigate normal society. Once released, they're barred from many schools, government jobs, certain social services, the voting booth, even the military. Jobs and decent housing are huge problems.
They have no stake in society, so why even try to fit in? A high recidivism rate goes without saying. All on the taxpayer's dime.

We know how to do it better -- and cheaper -- but have no motivation to do so. Ex cons don't vote.
 

GoodbyeDave

Well-Known Member
I didn't answer since this is obviously USian, but in the UK we currently do all of this, by and large! And even supporters of the Conservative Party, like me, have no problems. Of course the Ulster Unionists get their knickers in a twist over abortion and gay marriage, but they're a bunch of ranting proddies.
 

74x12

Well-Known Member
Reflecting @Laika ‘s poll.
Government should stay out of our private lives (ie love and marry who you want) is what I agreed with because government shouldnt' decide who we marry or love. Marriage licenses are illogical and furthermore people like government being in charge of marriage (issuing you a licenses to marry as if you need permission) only because they get tax breaks etc. Well as a single person I say forget that nonsense! You're unfairly voting yourselves tax breaks that discriminate against single people and I'm tired of it.
 
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