ImprobableBeing
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A frubal for you sir! I've said this before.
Much obliged.
Why is it called frubals though? dafuq is that?
Anyway, head high, sword front.
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A frubal for you sir! I've said this before.
That's some bad haiku skills right there
roses are red
violets may be blue
you are daft.
It seems strange with all this talk of "love" that no one has even offered a definition of what love is?
Biological attraction of your wife and protection of your offspring as established via hormonal and electrochemical stimuly in your frontal cortex as well as spinal cortex and neurocortex.
These are primal instincts, same as any animal, only difference is that a dawg says woof to the female and you say, so how you doin tonight babe.
And of course you have the most noble motives in "hitting" on these women....marriage, children, pets, a nice house with a picket fence.....a motgage? LOLOr something like that, i'm not all that great at flirting in English, but i'm your man if you're hitting on a Spanish or Swedish or Serbian girl.
The other one.which religion, in your opinion, is identified by the love they have
Jesus said "I am giving you a new commandment, that you love one another; just as I have loved you, that you also love one another.By this all will know that you are my disciples, if you have love among yourselves. (John 13:34,35) which religion, in your opinion, is identified by the love they have for one another?
If you truly believe in these things, seek help.
We have seen time and time again how these things end, you may think you never would but if you believe that this world is ruled by satan and you are a messenger of god you need to be locked up.
See, if you talk to god you are praying, if he talks to you you are clinically insane.
And not a single Christian follows Jesus, if they did they would be die hard liberal socialists who would stumble all over themselves to help their fellow man.
Those are atheists of today, if Jesus were alive today he'd be an atheist.
Do you think it is only your denomination where members have love for one another?
Having love for one another is not black and white like you seem to present it. Many people from all sorts of backgrounds have love for one another and there are many who do not, including in your denomination.
H....is there some reason why you take everything JW's say as indicating that we are somehow perfect and everyone else isn't?
Like the Jews in ancient times, we are anything but perfect, but God did not judge his people on whether they could keep all his laws perfectly, he judged them on their efforts to do all that he commanded them and their willing obedience to his laws.
King David said he "loved" God's laws and that they filled his thoughts "all day long". This did not prevent him from committing grievous sins, (adultery and murder were both capital offences) but he was forgiven because of his genuine repentance.
The law was perfect, but the people were not, and God knew that they could never keep it without faltering...he never really expected them to. This perfect law was a constant reminder of their sinfulness and their need for a permanent solution to their inability to rise above their imperfect inclinations to do the wrong thing. He thus provided the means for them to be forgiven in the blood of animal sacrifices. Why blood? Because blood represents life itself. Jesus' blood would be offered "once and for all time", never needing to be repeated.
When Jesus gave the command to "preach the good news of the kingdom in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations" before the foretold "end" of this present system, then we should be looking for one united Christian body, with one united message preaching in all the world as Christ instructed it to be done. (Matt 24:14; 28:19, 29) He said he would be supporting this work, so nothing would stop it.
Read Matt 10:11-15 and see why it had to be a personal message delivered in person by his disciples. (Acts 5:42; 20:20) When one accepted the Christian message, they in turn, became preachers of the message to others.
When a natural disaster is looming today, how do emergency service workers warn the public? They go house to house so that no one is missed. They cannot count on the fact that media alone will sound the warning...when lives are at stake, you leave no stone unturned. Police too will conduct house to house investigations so that witnesses to a neighborhood crime might bring new evidence to light.
There are quite a few areas in which Christendom fails in its duty of care.
No churches in my living memory have ever sent representatives to my door to offer "the good news of the kingdom" to me...ever.
A local church who might see their Christ assigned responsibility may conduct a local preaching work, but local is not "the entire inhabited earth".
And the good news has to be one unambiguous message for all. How can churches preach, (even if they see the need to) one message when they can't even agree on what the kingdom is, let alone what it will do for mankind.
How can they serve the "Prince of Peace" whilst supporting the wars of their nations, even recruiting clergy in an officer's capacity (and paid an officer's salary) to quell any conscience issues that "Christian" soldiers may face in training to kill an enemy that Christ commanded them to love?
When Christian faced Christian on the battle field in two world wars, both prayed to the same god....but it wasn't Jehovah. (1 John 4:20, 21) They even blessed weapons that were going to kill fellow Christians!
In those two areas alone (and there are many more) Christendom is screaming out to Jesus that they are Christians in name only.
Any wonder Jesus will say to the "many" who protest at his rejection of them, "I never knew you! Get away from me you workers of lawlessness" (Matt 7:21-23)
These ones assume that they are his disciples, but he says he has NEVER known them, despite their doing all these things "in his name".
So even though there are those who might be very loving towards others, whether they purport to be "religious" or not, among them there are noble minded humanitarians who are atheists. Since God requires faith and obedience, along with the demonstration of unselfish love, it cannot be stated that showing love is the 'sole' determining factor, though it is a big identifying mark. (John 13:34, 35)
If you cannot tell by now H, I don't know what more can be said.And so what is the point of this thread Jayjay!!??
If you cannot tell by now H, I don't know what more can be said.
Providing a definition of what love is and what God's expectations of his people were in ancient times and adding a small list of Christian requirements, allows the readers here to discern who is in fact showing true Christian love. :yes:
If you cannot tell by now H, I don't know what more can be said.
Providing a definition of what love is and what God's expectations of his people were in ancient times and adding a small list of Christian requirements, allows the readers here to discern who is in fact showing true Christian love. :yes:
The OP question was, which religion has love amongst it's members...I am pretty sure it is easy to love and care for your own members, lots of religions have a brother/sisterhood, where they help each other and are charitable towards each other because they belong to the same group, JWs are not special when it comes to this.
Another very good point Horrorble. I saw a video on GodTube. It was about a man who wanted to propose marriage to a woman. He set up a scene of about a thousand people to walk his girlfriend through. Even before they got to the end, where there were many more people, I thought it was not possible for a person to have so many friends. And I am sure there was family there too but even so, there were so many people cooperating in love. It was amazing. Were they Jehovah's Witnesses? (it is the POINT of the thread, I know - I guessed right away) I think they were not Jehovah's Wintesses. Will they all become Jehovah's Witnesses sometime in the future? I do think it is possible. Where did they get the love they show for their friends and family? How are they showing love like that without the "true religion" about them? I would link the video but I deleted it and it's too long for most people, I think.
Basically the OP was not actually trying to debate anything, just preach about why their religion is the best, it was a rhetorical question.
My point was love is not unique to the JW's...sorry
You are right--all humans have love--- the JW,s have love and live to do Gods will.