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Who do you say I am?
- Thread starter lunamoth
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Comprehend
Res Ipsa Loquitur
Matt 16:15-17
15 He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am?
16 And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.
17 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed [it] unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.
15 He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am?
16 And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.
17 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed [it] unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.
Terrywoodenpic
Oldest Heretic
I am sure that is true
Gods spirit is in us all.
Jesus though, was born of God and Mary and has a relationship to God that we do not.
the bible tells us that Jesus is Gods first-born son, Jesus is not God .... God sent his only-begotten son to the earth , many false beliefs about Jesus are taught in christendom, but the bible teaches us that Jesus is Gods son . religious leaders have made up allsorts of mixed up ideas about Jesus . and many people get to believing all of these lies. this is what happens when manmade doctrines are brought into the congregations.
dawny0826
Mother Heathen
"For unto us a Child is born, Unto us a Son is given: and the government will be upon His shoulder. And His name will be called Wonderful, Counselor, Mighty God." Isaiah 9:6
"For the grace of God that brings salvation has appeared to all men, teaching us that denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly in the present age, looking for the blessed hope and glorious appearing of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ, who gave Himself for us, that he might redeem us from every lawless deed and purify for Himself His own special people, zealous for good works. Speak these things, exhort and rebuke with all authority. Let no one despise you." Tit. 2:11-15
Jesus is God.
"For the grace of God that brings salvation has appeared to all men, teaching us that denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly in the present age, looking for the blessed hope and glorious appearing of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ, who gave Himself for us, that he might redeem us from every lawless deed and purify for Himself His own special people, zealous for good works. Speak these things, exhort and rebuke with all authority. Let no one despise you." Tit. 2:11-15
Jesus is God.
dawny0826
Mother Heathen
The Trinity has been revealed to many Christians via the Holy Spirit.
What doctrines have I supposedly fallen victim to? I didn't subscribe to any doctrine.
It's rather brash to exclaim to Trinitarian Christians that they believe lies, don't you think? When we've been called to love...I don't understand the justification behind slapping false labels on those who are supposed to be your brothers and sisters in Christ.
There's a rather good article that cover this on
http://www.everystudent.com/wires/whodoyousay.html
Is Jesus God? How he implied he was God:
The Jews therefore said to Him, "You are not yet fifty years old, and have You seen Abraham?" Jesus said to them, "Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was born, I am." Therefore they picked up stones to throw at Him; but Jesus hid Himself, and went out of the temple. (John 8:57-59)
"I and the Father are one." The Jews took up stones again to stone Him. Jesus answered them, "I showed you many good works from the Father; for which of them are you stoning Me?" The Jews answered Him, "For a good work we do not stone You, but for blasphemy; and because You, being a man, make Yourself out to be God." (John 10:30-33)
And Jesus cried out and said, "He who believes in Me does not believe in Me, but in Him who sent Me. And he who beholds Me beholds the One who sent Me. I have come as light into the world, that everyone who believes in Me may not remain in darkness." (John 12:44-46)
And so when He had washed their feet, and taken His garments, and reclined at the table again, He said to them, "Do you know what I have done to you? You call Me Teacher and Lord; and you are right, for I am. If I then, the Lord and the Teacher, washed your feet, you also ought to wash one another's feet." (John 13:12-14)
Jesus said to him, "I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father, but through Me. If you had known Me, you would have known My Father also; from now on you know Him, and have seen Him." Philip said to Him, "Lord, show us the Father, and it is enough for us." Jesus said to him, "Have I been so long with you, and yet you have not come to know Me, Philip? He who has seen Me has seen the Father; how do you say, 'Show us the Father'?" (John 14:6-9)
http://www.everystudent.com/wires/whodoyousay.html
Is Jesus God? How he implied he was God:
The Jews therefore said to Him, "You are not yet fifty years old, and have You seen Abraham?" Jesus said to them, "Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was born, I am." Therefore they picked up stones to throw at Him; but Jesus hid Himself, and went out of the temple. (John 8:57-59)
"I and the Father are one." The Jews took up stones again to stone Him. Jesus answered them, "I showed you many good works from the Father; for which of them are you stoning Me?" The Jews answered Him, "For a good work we do not stone You, but for blasphemy; and because You, being a man, make Yourself out to be God." (John 10:30-33)
And Jesus cried out and said, "He who believes in Me does not believe in Me, but in Him who sent Me. And he who beholds Me beholds the One who sent Me. I have come as light into the world, that everyone who believes in Me may not remain in darkness." (John 12:44-46)
And so when He had washed their feet, and taken His garments, and reclined at the table again, He said to them, "Do you know what I have done to you? You call Me Teacher and Lord; and you are right, for I am. If I then, the Lord and the Teacher, washed your feet, you also ought to wash one another's feet." (John 13:12-14)
Jesus said to him, "I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father, but through Me. If you had known Me, you would have known My Father also; from now on you know Him, and have seen Him." Philip said to Him, "Lord, show us the Father, and it is enough for us." Jesus said to him, "Have I been so long with you, and yet you have not come to know Me, Philip? He who has seen Me has seen the Father; how do you say, 'Show us the Father'?" (John 14:6-9)
doppelganger
Through the Looking Glass
Jesus is us as we love others.
Out of curiosity, what is "the Law of the Prophets"?
lunamoth
Will to love
Hi Willa,
It's the Law or the Prophets, meaning that He did not come to change the law brought by Moses or the teachings of the prophets.
luna
Comprehend
Res Ipsa Loquitur
I too see "love" as being in relationship --between people, as well as between a person and the world. In that context, I can see Jesus come to "save" us by revealing, in word and deed, a very particular relationship.This is a very important part of what the Trinity means to me. God is Love, which means relationship. The Trinity is that original relationship of Love from which all Love flows.
Where two or three are gathered, I am with them.
lunamoth
Will to love
A worthy question willa, but I think it deserves its own thread. Generally it refers to the laws found in the Torah aka Pentateuch (the Five Books of Moses). Christians understand this to refer to the ten commandments. Jesus taught that the ten flowed from the two, which is really One (Love). IMV, the 613 mitvot also flowed from the ten which flowed from the two because they were, for the Israelites, about how to remain in loving relationship with God and each other.