Who here has been prescribed and used with Ivermectin?

[oldbadger]

No, not okay

You don't read my post proper. You fill in with your mind, you should just read what I write, not superimpose all kind of stuff from yourself

Absolutely...... Will do.

 

[Moonjuice]

Some of us have been talking about the distrust of the FDA's authorization of the Covid vaccines. To help illustrate it, we can look at what the FDA say about Ivermectin regarding COVID Treatment:
Here is the headline from the FDA website "Why You Should Not Use Ivermectin to Treat or Prevent COVID-19."

If you only read the headline, you would be safe to assume that the FDA does not think anyone should use Ivermectin to treat Covid. How did they come to this conclusion?

"The FDA’s job is to carefully evaluate the scientific data on a drug to be sure that it is both safe and effective for a particular use, and then to decide whether or not to approve it. Using any treatment for COVID-19 that’s not approved or authorized by the FDA, unless part of a clinical trial, can cause serious harm."

Then the FDA states that "The FDA has not reviewed data to support use of ivermectin in COVID-19 patients to treat or to prevent COVID-19"

So there you go.

 

[oldbadger]

Here is the headline from the FDA website "Why You Should Not Use Ivermectin to Treat or Prevent COVID-19."

Then the FDA states that "The FDA has not reviewed data to support use of ivermectin in COVID-19 patients to treat or to prevent COVID-19"

So there you go.

Yes....... but it could still be obtained or acquired or purchased privately, true?

But it doesn't look like many (or any) members have used ivermectin this last 12-18 months.

It was one of the antibiotics which were drip fed in to my wife in 2014 to save her from a serious bacterial sepsis condition, but of course antibiotics are great for killing bacteria, not much good for the treatment of a virus infection. Maybe that's why nobody has used it here, on RF? So far?

 

[Deeje]

Yes....... but it could still be obtained or acquired or purchased privately, true?

But it doesn't look like many (or any) members have used ivermectin this last 12-18 months.

It was one of the antibiotics which were drip fed in to my wife in 2014 to save her from a serious bacterial sepsis condition, but of course antibiotics are great for killing bacteria, not much good for the treatment of a virus infection. Maybe that's why nobody has used it here, on RF? So far?

You need a prescription for it here in Australia, so what doctor is going to prescribe something that his profession is dissing despite the success of overseas trials with a variety of treatments. Ivermectin is just one of them.

You can't dismiss one 'untested' treatment (which has been approved for decades) and then recommend one that is even more untested.....unless of course you are convinced by your superiors that you must. All we ask if for a choice.....if we take full responsibility, then what have they got to lose...its our life after all. If you have faith in something, it will usually work.....doesn't a placebo trial prove that? Often the placebos work better than the actual drug.....why? Because people believe in it.

 

[oldbadger]

You need a prescription for it here in Australia, so what doctor is going to prescribe something that his profession is dissing despite the success of overseas trials with a variety of treatments. Ivermectin is just one of them.

You can't dismiss one 'untested' treatment (which has been approved for decades) and then recommend one that is even more untested.....unless of course you are convinced by your superiors that you must. All we ask if for a choice.....if we take full responsibility, then what have they got to lose...its our life after all. If you have faith in something, it will usually work.....doesn't a placebo trial prove that? Often the placebos work better than the actual drug.....why? Because people believe in it.

Hi Deeje.

I wouldn't take any medicine that our docs didn't prescribe but folks can obtain mostly anything privately, these days.

You do have a choice, but it probably means going private if you believe in a particular drug that the medical profession us mostly advising against.

Over here (UK) the medical profession does seem to use ivermectin in cases of severe sepsis. My wife was very close to death when she was treated with that and other antibiotics. But ivermectin cannot fight virus's, it can only be of use where a virus infection has led to an additional bacterial sickness.

But nobody on RF has yet told us that they have used ivermectin .....for anything.

 

[oldbadger]

.................. All we ask if for a choice.....if we take full responsibility, then what have they got to lose...its our life after all. If you have faith in something, it will usually work.....doesn't a placebo trial prove that? ...........................

Question:- If you were a doctor, would you prescribe treatments for patients who signed to say that they took full responsibility for taking the treatment?

 

[Moonjuice]

Yes....... but it could still be obtained or acquired or purchased privately, true?

But it doesn't look like many (or any) members have used ivermectin this last 12-18 months.

It was one of the antibiotics which were drip fed in to my wife in 2014 to save her from a serious bacterial sepsis condition, but of course antibiotics are great for killing bacteria, not much good for the treatment of a virus infection. Maybe that's why nobody has used it here, on RF? So far?

Just saying, the FDA has not evaluated it as a treatment for Covid. Without proper testing, no one knows for sure how effective the drug can be at treatment or prevention. From what I have read, some doctors are saying it can be really effective as a prophylactic against Covid. Only slightly less effective than the existing vaccines. Of course, unless large scale trials are done, no one can say for sure. Certainly, you have to be out of your mind to inject a random amount of any kind of antibiotic into your body without a doctors supervision. Especially when you are doing it to fight an infection the drug has not been tested to treat.

 

[oldbadger]

Just saying, the FDA has not evaluated it as a treatment for Covid. Without proper testing, no one knows for sure how effective the drug can be at treatment or prevention. From what I have read, some doctors are saying it can be really effective as a prophylactic against Covid. Only slightly less effective than the existing vaccines. Of course, unless large scale trials are done, no one can say for sure. Certainly, you have to be out of your mind to inject a random amount of any kind of antibiotic into your body without a doctors supervision. Especially when you are doing it to fight an infection the drug has not been tested to treat.

Absolutely!
I wrote that post to a member who wonders why folks cannot just obtain prescriptions from doctors after taking full responsibility for any consequences. Of course no doctors (UK) would prescribe anything to anyone that they didn't trust themselves.
No RF member has posted to date that they have taken invermectin.

 

[oldbadger]

Just saying, the FDA has not evaluated it as a treatment for Covid. Without proper testing, no one knows for sure how effective the drug can be at treatment or prevention. From what I have read, some doctors are saying it can be really effective as a prophylactic against Covid. Only slightly less effective than the existing vaccines. Of course, unless large scale trials are done, no one can say for sure. Certainly, you have to be out of your mind to inject a random amount of any kind of antibiotic into your body without a doctors supervision. Especially when you are doing it to fight an infection the drug has not been tested to treat.

Yes. Agreed.
The UK medics have certainly not approved it for use in Covid cases here.
My wife received invermectin antibiotic with others in an intravenous drip 'cocktail' as an 11th hour treatment for staphylococcus sepsis in 2014, but that's the only case of such a treatment that I know about. She lived.

 

[oldbadger]

Thread update.......
I just looked in to see if any member had posted here to tell us that they have taken Ivermectin for any reason.

So far......no such posts. But I have read several members telling that they have received covid vaccinations/s.

Actions, not words, I think.