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Who is the creator of this World?

Do you believe our world is a domain of the devil?

  • Yes

    Votes: 1 3.1%
  • No

    Votes: 25 78.1%
  • I'm not sure

    Votes: 1 3.1%
  • God and devil don't exist

    Votes: 10 31.3%
  • We are Gods

    Votes: 2 6.3%
  • There are many Gods

    Votes: 5 15.6%

  • Total voters
    32

justaguy313

Active Member
There was a prince who fell before Adam and Eve arrived. He was the "crafty beast". But never a God. He was delusional to think that he could ever be a God.

The war in heaven is a retrospective, its about the fall which Jesus finally terminated while on earth.

Iblis l.a. is the craftsman or if you will the architect of the matrix. Imam Ahmed Al Hassan from him is peace revealed that if you split the word Iblis, you get Aba Lees, which means father of creation. He is known in some scriptures like Book of Enoch or Gnostic islamic Umm ul Kitab as Azazel, which means the dear one of God. He was really a chief commander of Heaven once, before the fall.
 

justaguy313

Active Member
''Yes, Lucifer is a god, and unfortunately Adonai is also a god. For it is an eternal law that there is no light without darkness, no beauty without ugliness, no white without black, for the absolute can only exist as two gods... The doctrine of Satanism is heresy: the true and pure philosophical religion is the belief in Lucifer, who is equal to Adonai; but Lucifer, the god of light and the god of good, is fighting for humanity against Adonai, the god of darkness and evil."

This quote can be viewed in French and English in the main Albert Pike folder, at the "Scottish Order" library in Washington.
 

wellwisher

Well-Known Member
In Christian tradition, Satan was condoned in heaven up to the book of Revelations. Satan is not thrown from heaven until after the events of the Old and New Testament; through the life and rebirth of Jesus. Satan being condoned in Heaven, implies Satan was an acceptable part of the Divine drama, teaching humans the lessons of good and evil, in both the Old and most of the New Testament, besides Revelations.

Revelations may have been the original first book of the New Testament; Diary of John, in exile on Patmos. It was placed last, since it was still assumed to be in the future, when the New Testament was compiled in 2nd century AD. Revelation, unlike the tales of Jesus, was far too complex and scary to have been handed down by oral traditions. It may have been from the original transcript. My guess after John dies of old age the Romans saw John's unsettled vision did not see it as a harm to Rome; preserved. I was so different from the teachings of Jesus; scary instead of hopeful.

Before Satan, was called Satan, he was called Lucifer. In Roman folklore, Lucifer ("light-bringer" in Latin) was the name of the planet Venus, though it was often personified as a male figure, bearing a torch. This is symbolic of the rise of the secondary center of human consciousness; ego appearing. The ego, like Satan, can choose apart from the inner self; primary or God.

Venus can be seen in the morning sky. It lingers from the darkness of night; unconsciousness and inner self, and appears at dawn; dawn of the conscious mind and the ego secondary; torch in the darkness.

Venus is also often associated with love and desire; Aphrodite. My guess this tells us the ego first appears connected to compulsive desire, beyond the natural instinct of the inner self; animal nature. The Bible describe how humans become perverted; compulsive desire, leading the symbolic great flood; dissociated consciousness, for cleansing and a renewal of the mind.

Satan first appears in the Bible, in the Tree of Knowledge of good and evil. He is still condoned in heaven, but his nature as Lucifer and desire changes. Adam and Eve compulsively picked the wrong tree; desire was changed to law and self control. Lucifer becomes Satan; transition of the ego. The cure for ego compulsion, was law of good and evil; structured the desire to make it less compulsive and productive. Satan is still in Heaven, shows this transition was condoned by God; inner self.

After Satan is thrown from Heaven; Revelations, he becomes the Devil. He is no longer condoned by Heaven; inner self, but is still connected to law, with the Devil the dark side of law; all the evils described by law. Law of good and evil is like a magnet that has both a north and a south pole, which always come in pairs. There is no magnetic monopole in entire. Like law, if evil exists, so does the opposite good, even if it is not yet conscious. From the evil of perverted and cruel Rome, the good was revealed as Jesus, who is the polarized opposite of Satan; zones of maximum field strength, as reflected from the evil that would appear; Rome.

This symbolism tells us about the evolution of the ego secondary in terms of its firmware; Ego IT, and the potential for an update that can reunite us with the inner self.
 

justaguy313

Active Member
Revelations may have been the original first book of the New Testament; Diary of John, in exile on Patmos. It was placed last, since it was still assumed to be in the future, when the New Testament was compiled in 2nd century AD. Revelation, unlike the tales of Jesus, was far too complex and scary to have been handed down by oral traditions. It may have been from the original transcript. My guess after John dies of old age the Romans saw John's unsettled vision did not see it as a harm to Rome; preserved. I was so different from the teachings of Jesus; scary instead of hopeful.

You can guess, but even the scholars admit that nobody really knows who John of Patmos really was

In Christian tradition, Satan was condoned in heaven up to the book of Revelations. Satan is not thrown from heaven until after the events of the Old and New Testament; through the life and rebirth of Jesus. Satan being condoned in Heaven, implies Satan was an acceptable part of the Divine drama, teaching humans the lessons of good and evil, in both the Old and most of the New Testament, besides Revelations.


Before Satan, was called Satan, he was called Lucifer. In Roman folklore, Lucifer ("light-bringer" in Latin) was the name of the planet Venus, though it was often personified as a male figure, bearing a torch. This is symbolic of the rise of the secondary center of human consciousness; ego appearing. The ego, like Satan, can choose apart from the inner self; primary or God.

In my belief he was thrown out of Heaven exactly the same moment that he didn't want to prostrate to creation that he created with his own hands- Adam pbuh

Perhaps one of the greatest facts about Freemasonry is that they actually worship the star Sirius. Sirius for them represents the letter G or God and it is the sun behind the sun. They consider Sirius to be the source of the sun’s power and the divine light behind all creation. Sirius, which is located in the constellation Canis Major, is known as the Dog Star and Dog is God spelled backwards. The Freemasons worship the soul of Iblis or Satan, the blazing star, Sirius. That is how and from where they derive their power and influence. The Freemasons worship the one eye of Satan. We live in a universe created by Sirius, the soul of Iblis, and we live on the soul of Adam, Earth, where the worshipers and children of Sirius currently rule. Sirius has been the most dominant and apparent star in our galaxy.
 
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