Who is this guy?

[Spiderman]

I think this man would have a stronger argument if he didn't make so many personal insults and generalizations.

He seems very brilliant and amusing though. I'm sure it's not most of migrants that are for the agenda this man portrays them as being for, so I consider him a bit mislead, but he still speaks some truth.

Im just wondering if you know very much about this man and is he very influential?

Do you agree with him? I do on some matters. I've just met some good Muslim immigrants, and so I don't believe they should all be labeled the way this guy does

 

[Spiderman]

I'm not sure which sources are accurate, but there seems to be a consensus that fertility rates among non-muslim Europeans is much lower than those of Muslim families.

With that combined with the invasion of migrants, if things continue going at this pace, Islam will take over Europe.

It won't be in our generation though.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Pat Condell
Pat Condell - Wikipedia

 

[Spiderman]

Angela Merkel has been very kind to immigrants. She belongs to:
Christian democracy - Wikipedia
Liberal conservatism - Wikipedia
Pro-Europeanism - Wikipedia

How Christian is she? She is the head of "Christian democracy". I've always wondered about that name. Is it truly Christian?

She has truly been kind to immigrants, but there has been a lot of sexual assaults from them in Germany as well...so, it seems Germany is recognizing the damage done. Can't fault her for trying to be nice.

, "Merkel said she had decided to open borders to migrants fleeing war and turmoil in Syria, Iraq and Afghanistan because the situation was “extraordinary.” At the time, Germany took in more than 1 million refugees."

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.po...-border-migration-refugee-policy-germany/amp/

 

[Spiderman]

"London Metropolitan Police showed a sharp rise in acid attacks, with 465 recorded in 2017, up from 395 the previous year and 255 in 2015. The attacks increased six-fold over six years.2017 was the worst year for acid attacks in London - CNN

"Police officials from EU countries met at Europol headquarters on Tuesday to discuss "honor killings," a disturbing problem on the rise in Europe's mainly Middle Eastern, Arabic and Asian immigrant communities.
Europe Grapples with "Honor Killings" | DW | 23.06.2004

 

[Spiderman]

Europe has a history of attempting suicide. Just watch a documentary on Napoleon, World War 1, and World War II. Europeans have a history of screwing each other over and destroying much of the continent and leaving it in disarray.

Well, then again, people screw each other over and bring destruction to every continent. If the 21st century wars in the Middle East and Africa were taking place in Europe, we would call it World War 3.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Europe has a history of attempting suicide. Just watch a documentary on Napoleon, World War 1, and World War II. Europeans have a history of screwing each other over and destroying much of the continent and leaving it in disarray.

Well, then again, people screw each other over and bring destruction to every continent. If the 21st century wars in the Middle East and Africa were taking place in Europe, we would call it World War 3.

Europe also isn't that big. Almost all of it can fit with in the continental US alone.

 

[Salvador]

Angela Merkel has been very kind to immigrants. She belongs to:
Christian democracy - Wikipedia
Liberal conservatism - Wikipedia
Pro-Europeanism - Wikipedia

How Christian is she? She is the head of "Christian democracy". I've always wondered about that name. Is it truly Christian?

She has truly been kind to immigrants, but there has been a lot of sexual assaults from them in Germany as well...so, it seems Germany is recognizing the damage done. Can't fault her for trying to be nice.

, "Merkel said she had decided to open borders to migrants fleeing war and turmoil in Syria, Iraq and Afghanistan because the situation was “extraordinary.” At the time, Germany took in more than 1 million refugees."

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.po...-border-migration-refugee-policy-germany/amp/

Merkel's immigration policy has been a total disaster for Germany. Hopefully, The Alternative for Germany Party can soon take control of Germany there and implement sensible immigration restrictions to protect this secular nation from becoming Islamic.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

After centuries of Muslim invasions and Europeans engaged in major internal wars against each other, I highly doubt they are "killing themselves" now. If they are, it's in the decline in birth rates, not immigrants.

 

[lewisnotmiller]

Anders Breivik - hero or monster ?

Are you suggesting that there is some sort of doubt in your mind as to how he should be defined?
For me, I certainly wouldn't call him hero, and as a general rule, I don't like calling people 'monster'. It's dehumanizing. I don't think we should shy away from the fact that he's a flawed human (as we all are) but that his flaws are fairly extreme.

In any case, I was more interested in why you see value in spending time reading his manifesto. Asked as someone who does read things I strongly disagree with, but can't see enough value in this case to waste my time.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Europe has a history of attempting suicide. Just watch a documentary on Napoleon, World War 1, and World War II. Europeans have a history of screwing each other over and destroying much of the continent and leaving it in disarray.

That's why I don't buy into this idea that they're killing themselves now. Probably the closest they've ever come to pulling that off was ignoring Hitler and thinking him a non-threat.

 

[Anthem]

I think this man would have a stronger argument if

really? What do you think is his main argument.

 

[LuisDantas]

From the link, it would seem Pat is quite well known and has an influential voice.

There is a growing, if still comparably minor and ill-liked, awareness of the dangers of Islaam left to grow its numbers without any challenge. Particularly due to its political aspects and, frankly, to how much better described Islaam is as a mental (memetic) disease as opposed to an actual religion.

I joined that trend a few years ago. I do not like the right-wing affinity of it, but there is no longer any denying that Islaam is dangerous if left unchecked.

 

[LuisDantas]

After centuries of Muslim invasions and Europeans engaged in major internal wars against each other, I highly doubt they are "killing themselves" now. If they are, it's in the decline in birth rates, not immigrants.

And that is in itself a good reason to be wary of Muslim immigrants.

It is well documented that they are generally very isolationist in nature, refusing to melt into their host cultures. Even and perhaps mainly when they are actual refugees. Their birth rates are also easily among the highest of the current time.

 

[LuisDantas]

Another interesting debater, albeit one that can be difficult to find in English, is the Belgian Wim Van Rooy.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Particularly due to its political aspects and, frankly, to how much better described Islaam is as a mental (memetic) disease as opposed to an actual religion.

That's unnecessarily insulting. I expect better from staff members.

 

[Spiderman]

That's unnecessarily insulting. I expect better from staff members.

Even Saints made all sorts of mistakes.

 

[LuisDantas]

I make no apology. I have my opinion and I stand by it. Anyone is free to disagree if they see fit to.

I still call them as I see them. And what I see is hard to describe fairly otherwise.

To those who think that I am being unnecessarily harsh towards Islaam, I advise a little research about the event known as the Battle of the Camel.

It happened fairly soon in Islaam's history, and it was so shocking that it may well have resulted in the moderates-to-be leaving Islaam for good.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

I make no apology. I have my opinion and I stand by it. Anyone is free to disagree if they see fit to.

I still call them as I see them. And what I see is hard to describe fairly otherwise.

To those who think that I am being unnecessarily harsh towards Islaam, I advise a little research about the event known as the Battle of the Camel.

It happened fairly soon in Islaam's history, and it was so shocking that it may well have resulted in the moderates-to-be leaving Islaam for good.

I still expect better from a staff member. You insulted an entire religion and its followers. How are Muslim members of the forum supposed to interpret that? No wonder there's barely any on this site.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

And that is in itself a good reason to be wary of Muslim immigrants.

It is well documented that they are generally very isolationist in nature, refusing to melt into their host cultures. Even and perhaps mainly when they are actual refugees. Their birth rates are also easily among the highest of the current time.

I'll have to search for the sources, but America is showing itself to still be "top dog" at assimilating immigrants, including Muslims. Here they are assimilating well. In Europe it has been a different story.