Who rules the world Jesus (a Christianity-god) or Krishna (a Hinduism-god)???!!!

[Jainarayan]

Most (but not all) Christians believe Jesus to be the one and only God. And many or most (but not all) Hindus don't particularly believe Jesus to be a deity. Therefore you will have a hard time finding someone making such a claim.

That really is what I would have said if I were being serious (notice the subjunctive "were", indicating uncertainty ).

And not to mention that most Christians consider any god who is not Jesus or "God the Father" to be a false god (a term I can't wrap my head around anyway).

 

[LuisDantas]

Come to think of it, I don't think there is much of a direct parallel between the frequent understanding among Christians and Muslims that God should be worshipped because he is supposedly the one true God and the perspective of most Hindus.

Brahma seems to be the creator God, but that does not really have the same implications that a Christian or Muslim might expect.

Nor do devotees of any particular Deva seem to feel much of a need to convince other Hindus that their Deva is in some sense more proper than any other.

Most of the time, they just disagree and sometimes discuss those points of disagreement, without much of a worry.

Even the disagreement between Advaita and Dvaita (for instance) seems to sound a lot more serious than it is in actual fact. Hindus don't lose a lot of sleep because some of them think that the substance of the universe and of the Devas is the same as ours, while others see a fundamental distinction.

Nor do I see any reason why they should. Those are very personal matters and disagreement is quite acceptable. It is not like the average Hindu has a duty to "correctly" build a metaphysical reality or anything.

 

[paarsurrey]

Most (but not all) Christians believe Jesus to be the one and only God. And many or most (but not all) Hindus don't particularly believe Jesus to be a deity. Therefore you will have a hard time finding someone making such a claim.

Do you mean the Hinduism-god is yielding to Christian-god?
Regards

 

[LuisDantas]

Do you mean the Hinduism-god is yielding to Christian-god?
Regards

Eh. No. More like the Devas of Hinduism are mature enough not to feel the need to play dominance games.

 

[serp777]

False dilemma--it doesn't have to be either. It isn't an either or kind of thing. It could be muhammad on a winged unicorn, born out of a pastafarian intelligence.

 

[Kelly of the Phoenix]

Eh. No. More like the Devas of Hinduism are mature enough not to feel the need to play dominance games.

Yes, not everyone has to be involved in peeing contests.

 

[paarsurrey]

Do you mean the Hinduism-god is yielding to Christian-god?
Regards

Eh. No. More like the Devas of Hinduism are mature enough not to feel the need to play dominance games.

There had been a lot of strife in Hinduism and Buddhism in the history. Was it for peace? Please
Regards

 

[idav]

Have they demarked the world into one being ruled by the former and the other by the later? When an accord/treaty/covenant to this effect was reached between the two and who witnessed it? Please
Everybody is welcome to participate in the discussion belonging to a religion or no religion.

Disclaimer: Sorry, to me they both were separate prophets/messengers of Brahman in different times, place and people with the same message to believe in ONENESS of G-d:
[21:22] Have they taken gods from the earth who raise the dead?
[21:23] If there had been in them (the heavens and the earth) other gods beside Allah, then surely both would have gone to ruin. Glorified then be Allah, the Lord of the Throne, above what they attribute.
[21:24] He cannot be questioned as to what He does, but they will be questioned.
[21:25] Have they taken gods beside Him? Say, ‘Bring forth your proof. Here is the Book of those with me, and the Book of those before me.’ Nay, most of them know not the truth, and so they turn away.
[21:26] And We sent no Messenger before thee but We revealed to him, saying, ‘There is no God but I; so worship Me alone.’
http://www.alislam.org/quran/search2/showChapter.php?ch=21&verse=22
Please correct me if I am wrong wirth concrete and reasonable arguments.
Regards

So this is a question what deity is more powerful than Allah thread? Is Allah some sort of new God just claiming the credit for the stuff in the Torah or is it actually the same God as the bible? All the oneness stuff is certainly the similar to a one god concept. There actually is nothing remarkable about the claim the quran makes compared to other religious claims of gods sovereignty.

 

[LuisDantas]

There had been a lot of strife in Hinduism and Buddhism in the history. Was it for peace? Please
Regards

I'm not particularly well informed on that matter. I am fairly certain that it wasn't for demanding worship of the right Devas or any other deities, though.

 

[paarsurrey]

So this is a question what deity is more powerful than Allah thread? Is Allah some sort of new God just claiming the credit for the stuff in the Torah or is it actually the same God as the bible? All the oneness stuff is certainly the similar to a one god concept. There actually is nothing remarkable about the claim the quran makes compared to other religious claims of gods sovereignty.

Muhammad invent no name like Allah. It was already in vogue with the Arabs. Muhammad father's name was Abdullah (Abs-Allah), meaning Servant of Allah. Quran mentioned the true attributes of Allah and how these work:

[17:111] Say, ‘Call upon Allah or call upon Rahman; by whichever name you call Him, His are the most beautiful names.’ And utter not thy prayer aloud, nor utter it too low, but seek a way between.
[17:112] And say, ‘All praise belongs to Allah Who has taken unto Himself no son, and Who has no partner in His Kingdom, nor has He anyone to help Him on account of weakness.’ And extol His glory with all glorification.
http://www.alislam.org/quran/search2/showChapter.php?submitCh=Read+from+verse:&ch=17&verse=110
Regrds

 

[Muffled]

Umm... seriously? You actually said that? You forget he is God to me and many other Hindus.

I believe he made the claim which would make you think so but when I see that he says that spirits can inhabit animals he is only reiterating Hindu philosophy which is incorrect. if he were God he would know better.

 

[LuisDantas]

Sometimes I can't help but marvel at how dangerous monotheism can be.

 

[Jainarayan]

I believe he made the claim which would make you think so but when I see that he says that spirits can inhabit animals he is only reiterating Hindu philosophy which is incorrect. if he were God he would know better.

Dangerously close to offending a truckload of Hindus.

 

[Muffled]

Seriously?

I believe I would not jest about such a a thing. So figure him in with Zeus and Odin.

 

[Jainarayan]

I believe I would not jest about such a a thing. So figure him in with Zeus and Odin.

Dangerously close to offending a truckload of Hindus, Hellenists and Heathens.

 

[Muffled]

Dangerously close to offending a truckload of Hindus.

I believe I do not wish to offend but to debate. What evidence do you have that spirits inhabit animals?

 

[Jainarayan]

I believe I do not wish to offend but to debate. What evidence do you have that spirits inhabit animals?

I made no such claim. You made the claim they don't. You must back up your claim.

 

[LuisDantas]

I believe I do not wish to offend but to debate. What evidence do you have that spirits inhabit animals?

I don't think you want to go there, lest we begin to ask for the evidence for your God being all that.

 

[Muffled]

Dangerously close to offending a truckload of Hindus, Hellenists and Heathens.

I believe people should not be offended but debate. Have any of the gods ever said they were God except for Krishna? That is about the only thing that separates him from the others.

 

[Muffled]

I made no such claim. You made the claim they don't. You must back up your claim.

I have it straight from the mouth of God that spirits do not inhabit animals.