Norbert Tinca
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Who the serpent was?
First of all we need to read
2Cor.11-2 “For I am jealous over you with godly jealousy: for I have espoused you to one husband, that I may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ”
Pavel speaks here to chorintians, the Gentiles, who are presented here as a chaste virgin, a woman. But he is jealous here but with a godly jealousy. We find what is that godly jealousy in
Rom.11-14 “If by any means I may provoke to emulation them which are my flesh, and might save some of them. “
and In Rom.11-11 “I say then, Have they stumbled that they should fall? God forbid: but rather through their fall salvation is come unto Gentiles, for to provoke them to jealousy.”
It’s a jealousy that Pavel, who was a jew, have it. A jealousy that is godly because this jealousy can save some of them (from the jews).
Now! If in chorintians Pavel spoke about a virgin, that represent Christ church, then Eve it’s also a church. And what next? Pavel have a fear.
2Cor.11-3 “But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtility, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.”
In Ef.5-32 find this:
“This is a great mystery: but I speak concerning Christ and the church.” Is a mystery find in Genesis about the man and woman.
And what says Pavel in Eph.4-23,24?
“ And be renewed in the spirit of your mind;
And that ye put on the new man, which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness.”
We need to renew the spirit of our mind, like the man who God created on his own image (right, holy). But pavel have a fear. About our mind that Satan want to corrupted. Like he beguiled Eve.
Now!
How it beguiled Eve?
Gen 3.5 “For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.”
My question? How they shall be as gods? As God? Will be the man made on his own image. This is how it beguiled Eve. Eve is “mother of all living”. Gen.3-20. But God say that “thou shalt surely die” if you eat from the tree of knowledge of good and evil.
Now!
Rom5-13 “For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law”
Gen2-25 “And they were both naked, the man and his wife, and were not ashamed”
But when they eat from the tree of knowledge what happened?
Gen3-7 And the eyes of them both were opened and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together, and made themselves aprons”
We talk here about the law, that God gave it to the jews. And with law they know about the sin.
Rom.7-7: “What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.”
Rom.7-8 “ But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence. For without the law sin was dead.”
The law is the knowing of good and evil.
Pavel ask from Galatians (the Gentiles) the next question:
Gal.3-2 “This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?”
God say that shall surely die. They wasn’t receive the Spirit by the works of law like the serpent say , knowing good and evil. They surely wasn’t as God, as the man made on the image of God.
And that is why Eve named the mother of all living. Because the jews, THEY are the people of God, they are alive. But they die if they don’t have the Spirit. The Spirit is the life. The ethernal life. This is why God say they surely die. But the Gentiles are dead. Eph.2-1 “And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins”.
And Peter says in 1Pe:4-6 “ For this cause was the gospel preached also to them that are dead, that they might be judged according to men in the flesh, but live according to men in the flesh, but live according to God in the spirit.” The virgin is come from Gentiles. And the Virgin are the people that are dead in Christ and shall rise first . 1The4-16.
Why first? In Rom:11-25 “ For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness is part is happened to Israel, until the fullness of the Gentiles be come in.” They shall rise first. From the dead in the sins. But what about blindness of Israel. Rom:11-8 “According as it is written, God hath given them the spirit of slumber, eyes that they should not see, and ears that they should not hear
unto this day”. A spirit of slumber. Maybe if God gave you eyes to see and ears to hear by the Holy Spirit you will know who are the dead in Christ, who are asleep and who are alive and remain on the coming of the Lord in 1The:4,15-17
Think about Luke 15 on the story of the man who have two sons. TWO SONS.
One that Lu:15-24 “For this my son was dead, and is alive again; he was lost, and is found. And they began to be merry.”
And the other that is jealous Lu:15-29,30 “And he answering said to his father , Lo, these many years do I serve thee, neither transgressed I at any time thy commandment: and yet thou never gavest me a kid, that I might make merry with my friends:
But as soon as this thy son was come, which hath devoured thy living with harlots, thou hast killed for him the fatted calf”. He was jealous and the youngest living with harlots, in sin, dead, but now alive because he is returned to his father.
Lu:15-31 “And he said unto him, Son, thou art ever with me, and all that I have is thine”
Question: if he ever with Him, he should dead or alive?
First of all we need to read
2Cor.11-2 “For I am jealous over you with godly jealousy: for I have espoused you to one husband, that I may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ”
Pavel speaks here to chorintians, the Gentiles, who are presented here as a chaste virgin, a woman. But he is jealous here but with a godly jealousy. We find what is that godly jealousy in
Rom.11-14 “If by any means I may provoke to emulation them which are my flesh, and might save some of them. “
and In Rom.11-11 “I say then, Have they stumbled that they should fall? God forbid: but rather through their fall salvation is come unto Gentiles, for to provoke them to jealousy.”
It’s a jealousy that Pavel, who was a jew, have it. A jealousy that is godly because this jealousy can save some of them (from the jews).
Now! If in chorintians Pavel spoke about a virgin, that represent Christ church, then Eve it’s also a church. And what next? Pavel have a fear.
2Cor.11-3 “But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtility, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.”
In Ef.5-32 find this:
“This is a great mystery: but I speak concerning Christ and the church.” Is a mystery find in Genesis about the man and woman.
And what says Pavel in Eph.4-23,24?
“ And be renewed in the spirit of your mind;
And that ye put on the new man, which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness.”
We need to renew the spirit of our mind, like the man who God created on his own image (right, holy). But pavel have a fear. About our mind that Satan want to corrupted. Like he beguiled Eve.
Now!
How it beguiled Eve?
Gen 3.5 “For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.”
My question? How they shall be as gods? As God? Will be the man made on his own image. This is how it beguiled Eve. Eve is “mother of all living”. Gen.3-20. But God say that “thou shalt surely die” if you eat from the tree of knowledge of good and evil.
Now!
Rom5-13 “For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law”
Gen2-25 “And they were both naked, the man and his wife, and were not ashamed”
But when they eat from the tree of knowledge what happened?
Gen3-7 And the eyes of them both were opened and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together, and made themselves aprons”
We talk here about the law, that God gave it to the jews. And with law they know about the sin.
Rom.7-7: “What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.”
Rom.7-8 “ But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence. For without the law sin was dead.”
The law is the knowing of good and evil.
Pavel ask from Galatians (the Gentiles) the next question:
Gal.3-2 “This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?”
God say that shall surely die. They wasn’t receive the Spirit by the works of law like the serpent say , knowing good and evil. They surely wasn’t as God, as the man made on the image of God.
And that is why Eve named the mother of all living. Because the jews, THEY are the people of God, they are alive. But they die if they don’t have the Spirit. The Spirit is the life. The ethernal life. This is why God say they surely die. But the Gentiles are dead. Eph.2-1 “And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins”.
And Peter says in 1Pe:4-6 “ For this cause was the gospel preached also to them that are dead, that they might be judged according to men in the flesh, but live according to men in the flesh, but live according to God in the spirit.” The virgin is come from Gentiles. And the Virgin are the people that are dead in Christ and shall rise first . 1The4-16.
Why first? In Rom:11-25 “ For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness is part is happened to Israel, until the fullness of the Gentiles be come in.” They shall rise first. From the dead in the sins. But what about blindness of Israel. Rom:11-8 “According as it is written, God hath given them the spirit of slumber, eyes that they should not see, and ears that they should not hear
unto this day”. A spirit of slumber. Maybe if God gave you eyes to see and ears to hear by the Holy Spirit you will know who are the dead in Christ, who are asleep and who are alive and remain on the coming of the Lord in 1The:4,15-17Think about Luke 15 on the story of the man who have two sons. TWO SONS.
One that Lu:15-24 “For this my son was dead, and is alive again; he was lost, and is found. And they began to be merry.”
And the other that is jealous Lu:15-29,30 “And he answering said to his father , Lo, these many years do I serve thee, neither transgressed I at any time thy commandment: and yet thou never gavest me a kid, that I might make merry with my friends:
But as soon as this thy son was come, which hath devoured thy living with harlots, thou hast killed for him the fatted calf”. He was jealous and the youngest living with harlots, in sin, dead, but now alive because he is returned to his father.
Lu:15-31 “And he said unto him, Son, thou art ever with me, and all that I have is thine”
Question: if he ever with Him, he should dead or alive?
