Who will be the democrat nominee?

[Clizby Wampuscat]

I have a hard time believing Joe Biden will be the 2024 Presidential nominee for the democrats. His failing health and unpopularity would make him a terrible candidate. Good chance he gets replaced at the convention in my opinion.

Who do you think will be the nominee?

 

[fantome profane]

The reality is that unless Biden has a serious heart attack or other serious health scare he is going to be the nominee. Like it or not.

And it is not going to be Michelle Obama, that is just delusional. Even if Joe Biden drops dead tomorrow, it is not going to be Michelle Obama. She has never had any interest in doing it.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Yep, probably Joe. Not my number one choice but he beats the perpetual number 2.

 

[Clizby Wampuscat]

The reality is that unless Biden has a serious heart attack or other serious health scare he is going to be the nominee. Like it or not.

And it is not going to be Michelle Obama, that is just delusional. Even if Joe Biden drops dead tomorrow, it is not going to be Michelle Obama. She has never had any interest in doing it.

I just think that the democrats can't risk losing to trump.

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[McBell]

I just think that the democrats can't risk losing to trump.

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Whoever running against Trump is going to win.
The only chance the Republicans have of getting the Presidency is to NOT run Trump.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

His failing health ...

Would you mind documenting his "failing health"?

 

[Clizby Wampuscat]

Whoever running against Trump is going to win.
The only chance the Republicans have of getting the Presidency is to NOT run Trump.

Why do you say this? The polls suggest Trump is as popular as Biden.

 

[McBell]

Why do you say this? The polls suggest Trump is as popular as Biden.

As I have have stated in several other threads...


Trump has never won a popular vote.
With his supporters jumping ship left and right it appears there will be even FEWER people to vote for him in the popular vote.

So the only chance Trump has to win, assuming he even makes it on the ballot, is for the Electoral College to appoint him.
Since the Electoral College did not appoint him last time around, there is little reason to think they will this go round.


Now I understand that you put a lot of faith in polls, at least as long as they are saying things you like, but I have never put much faith in polls.
I find them to be about as accurate as astrology.

 

[Clizby Wampuscat]

Would you mind documenting his "failing health"?

Watch him in 2020 and watch him today. It is obvious. I am not alone:

Poll: 68% of voters have worries about Biden’s mental and physical health

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[McBell]

Watch him in 2020 and watch him today. It is obvious. I am not alone:

Poll: 68% of voters have worries about Biden’s mental and physical health

First Read is your briefing from “Meet the Press” and the NBC Political Unit on the day’s most important political stories and why they matter.

www.nbcnews.com

Since when is a poll considered "documenting" health?

You do know that there used to be a whole bunch of people who thought the Earth was flat, right?

 

[Clizby Wampuscat]

As I have have stated in several other threads...


Trump has never won a popular vote.

He does not need to.

With his supporters jumping ship left and right it appears there will be even FEWER people to vote for him in the popular vote.

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Why do you say this? What is your support that people are turning on Trump?

So the only chance Trump has to win, assuming he even makes it on the ballot, is for the Electoral College to appoint him.
Since the Electoral College did not appoint him last time around, there is little reason to think they will this go round.

That is false argument. Things have changed a lot, biden actually has a record people can decide if they like it or not.

Now I understand that you put a lot of faith in polls, at least as long as they are saying things you like, but I have never put much faith in polls.
I find them to be about as accurate as astrology.

You are wrong then. I do not put faith in polls but they are demonstrably more accurate than astrology.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

Watch him in 2020 and watch him today. It is obvious. I am not alone:

No, you're not. Along with too many others you casually peddle baseless and irresponsible claims. It's as ignorant as it is disgusting.

 

[McBell]

He does not need to.

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Why do you say this? What is your support that people are turning on Trump?

That is false argument. Things have changed a lot, biden actually has a record people can decide if they like it or not.

You are wrong then. I do not put faith in polls but they are demonstrably more accurate than astrology.

ROTFMAO

You put so much faith in polls you tried using a poll as documentation of Biden's alleged "failing health".

ROTFLMAO

Very difficult to take you seriously.

 

[Subduction Zone]

I just think that the democrats can't risk losing to trump.

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Those polls show that Trump and Biden are dead even. But guess what, the economy is doing great, the stock market is doing great gas prices are down, unemployment is way down. It takes a while for that to sink it, but it is. Trump knows this and openly said that he hopes that the economy tanks. He knows that he will lose if it stays this way.

 

[metis]

If Trump is so healthy and smart, then why won't he even debate those in his own party?

Would he debate Biden? Whaddya think?

 

[Subduction Zone]

If Trump is so healthy and smart, then why won't he even debate those in his own party?

Would he debate Biden? Whaddya think?

I doubt if he will. There is no law saying that he has to. But I can see a debate being held in absentia. That could be fun. An empty chair that they could ask occasionally "and your opinion Mr. Trump?"

 

[tytlyf]

I have a hard time believing Joe Biden will be the 2024 Presidential nominee for the democrats. His failing health and unpopularity would make him a terrible candidate. Good chance he gets replaced at the convention in my opinion.

I'm sure Biden will be the nominee. And I'll vote for him no problem. 2024 isn't about Biden anyways, it's about defeating MAGA and Trump once and for all. This is their last hurrah.
I see many Dems claiming they won't vote for Biden, but that will only help MAGA and Trump. It's almost as if they wouldn't mind another Trump presidency.
IMO, Biden will win the election and within the first year step down and give the reigns to Kamala Harris.

 

[metis]

I doubt if he will. There is no law saying that he has to. But I can see a debate being held in absentia. That could be fun. An empty chair that they could ask occasionally "and your opinion Mr. Trump?"

Biden would likely smoke him-- maybe also falling off the stage.

 

[Clizby Wampuscat]

Those polls show that Trump and Biden are dead even. But guess what, the economy is doing great, the stock market is doing great gas prices are down, unemployment is way down. It takes a while for that to sink it, but it is. Trump knows this and openly said that he hopes that the economy tanks. He knows that he will lose if it stays this way.

Right people are just too stupid to know that the economy is not as good as Biden says. We need to just listen to the government to tell us what to believe.

https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/president-joe-biden-poll/2024/01/15/id/1149608/

71% believe economy is bad, why do you think they think that?

 

[Clizby Wampuscat]

I'm sure Biden will be the nominee. And I'll vote for him no problem. 2024 isn't about Biden anyways, it's about defeating MAGA and Trump once and for all. This is their last hurrah.
I see many Dems claiming they won't vote for Biden, but that will only help MAGA and Trump. It's almost as if they wouldn't mind another Trump presidency.
IMO, Biden will win the election and within the first year step down and give the reigns to Kamala Harris.

Yeah we must defeat people who want to make america great again. That would be terrible.

Biden election and Kamala taking over is a nightmare scenario. We will see.