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Who will be the democrat nominee?

Who will be the democrat nominee for president

  • Joe Biden

    Votes: 16 84.2%
  • Michelle Obama

    Votes: 1 5.3%
  • Kamala Harris

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • RFK Jr.

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Dean Phillips

    Votes: 1 5.3%
  • Marianne Williamson

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Hillary Clinton

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Other

    Votes: 1 5.3%

  • Total voters
    19

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Ask anyone who's lost their business or job because of them.

Jobs are changing all of the time. New ones come in, old ones go. This is often how progress is made. I know that you like buggy whips but the government has no duty to protect outdated jobs. They should be offering training for those that need to change careers.
You could stay in complete ignorance though and act like you're dumb.
Projection. Extreme projection.

What you need to look at are the total job numbers. Are they up or are they down? Look at the unemployment statistics, are they up or are they down? Yep, Bill lost his job making buggy whips, but now he is working in the Tesla plant. The sort of mindset that you are supporting would have us never accept new and better technology and leave us far behind other countries.
 

Colt

Well-Known Member
Ask anyone who's lost their business or job because of them.

You could stay in complete ignorance though and act like you're dumb.
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9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
He is unpopular.


"A Biden/Trump general election, if that's the outcome of the primary season, would represent a battle of markedly unpopular candidates. Among all adults, Biden's approval rating is just 33% in this poll, worse than Trump's low as president (36%) and the lowest since George W. Bush from 2006-2008.

Looks like that stat is based on one outlier poll. Most recent polls have Biden's approval closer to 40%.


Considering how polarized the country is, I'd say close to all Republican-leaning voters wouldn't support any Democratic president. Wouldn't you agree?

Fifty-eight percent disapprove of Biden's work.

Among groups, just 31% of women now approve of Biden's work in office, a new low (as do 34% of men). He won 57% of women in 2020.

He's at 28% approval among independents, a customary swing voter group; a low of 32% among moderates; and a low of 41% among college graduates, 10 points off his career average in that group."

And here's who I think make up the voters saying they disapprove of Biden:

- people who will hold their nose and vote for Biden rather than vote Republican if Biden is the candidate.
- people who would never vote for any Democratic presidential candidate.

How big do you think these groups are? These are the ones that are most relevant when choosing a Democratic presidential candidate:

- people who would vote Republican if Biden was the candidate but vote Democrat if ______ got the nomination instead.
- Democrat-leaning people who would just stay home if Biden was the candidate but come out and actually vote if ______ got the nomination instead.

The people who think Biden isn't a good president but also think Trump was an awful president and a treasonous fascist will still vote for Biden, but they'd also show up in polls as disapproving of Biden.
 

Bthoth

Well-Known Member
I just think that the democrats can't risk losing to trump.

Biden won on the last election between Trump and Biden has the dem party committed already.

So as much as trump0craps try to pick on Biden, he would be a better president than trump even if he was in a coma.
 

Clizby Wampuscat

Well-Known Member
Looks like that stat is based on one outlier poll. Most recent polls have Biden's approval closer to 40%.


Considering how polarized the country is, I'd say close to all Republican-leaning voters wouldn't support any Democratic president. Wouldn't you agree?



And here's who I think make up the voters saying they disapprove of Biden:

- people who will hold their nose and vote for Biden rather than vote Republican if Biden is the candidate.
- people who would never vote for any Democratic presidential candidate.

How big do you think these groups are? These are the ones that are most relevant when choosing a Democratic presidential candidate:

- people who would vote Republican if Biden was the candidate but vote Democrat if ______ got the nomination instead.
- Democrat-leaning people who would just stay home if Biden was the candidate but come out and actually vote if ______ got the nomination instead.

The people who think Biden isn't a good president but also think Trump was an awful president and a treasonous fascist will still vote for Biden, but they'd also show up in polls as disapproving of Biden.
We will see. Many dems may just stay home. The great thing is we will see in November.
 

Colt

Well-Known Member
Better not ask Trump's niece and sister about that, and he says he's closer to his sister than anyone else. He's a self-centered racist bigot, which should be obvious by now.
Self-centered racist bigot describes Biden as well. He's been saying racist stuff throughout his career but since he's a (D) he gets a pass.

In January 2007, then-U.S. Sen. Joe Biden said of fellow Sen. Barack Obama, "I mean, you got the first sort of mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy."


 

Shaul

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
I think Dean Phillips is saying a lot of things that make sense. Here are some examples. He has said, “I’m afraid that President Biden is at a stage where he has lost the ability to legitimately listen". He has said, that the border is "an unmitigated, embarrassing, unforgivable disaster.”
Biden 'lost the ability to legitimately listen,' opening up path for Trump win, 2024 rival says

Joe Biden is running one of the most undemocratic campaigns imaginable. He refuses to debate with any of the other candidates for the Democrat nomination. Biden and the DNC have cancelled and/or rescheduled primaries and caucuses to favor Biden. The worse Biden does, the more Democrats hold on and rally to his dumpster fire re-election bid.

The Democrat party's 2024 Presidential hopes are self-destructing in slow motion on full public display.
 

Colt

Well-Known Member
I think Dean Phillips is saying a lot of things that make sense. Here are some examples. He has said, “I’m afraid that President Biden is at a stage where he has lost the ability to legitimately listen". He has said, that the border is "an unmitigated, embarrassing, unforgivable disaster.”
Biden 'lost the ability to legitimately listen,' opening up path for Trump win, 2024 rival says

Joe Biden is running one of the most undemocratic campaigns imaginable. He refuses to debate with any of the other candidates for the Democrat nomination. Biden and the DNC have cancelled and/or rescheduled primaries and caucuses to favor Biden. The worse Biden does, the more Democrats hold on and rally to his dumpster fire re-election bid.

The Democrat party's 2024 Presidential hopes are self-destructing in slow motion on full public display.
(D)'s are enablers of the illegal immigration crisis and have no desire to do anything about it!
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
I think Dean Phillips is saying a lot of things that make sense. Here are some examples. He has said, “I’m afraid that President Biden is at a stage where he has lost the ability to legitimately listen". He has said, that the border is "an unmitigated, embarrassing, unforgivable disaster.”
Biden 'lost the ability to legitimately listen,' opening up path for Trump win, 2024 rival says

Joe Biden is running one of the most undemocratic campaigns imaginable. He refuses to debate with any of the other candidates for the Democrat nomination. Biden and the DNC have cancelled and/or rescheduled primaries and caucuses to favor Biden. The worse Biden does, the more Democrats hold on and rally to his dumpster fire re-election bid.

The Democrat party's 2024 Presidential hopes are self-destructing in slow motion on full public display.
They know Biden can't do a debate. He's been a puppet president ever since he got into office and they know it.
 
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