Why Agree with God?

[lewisnotmiller]

Cultural Jews. I think it happened because different teams of Extra-Terrestrial creators created different groups of people. I have talked about this through many subjects on this forum. You might try what was the very popular Aliens and the Bible thread.

I talked with Gardner face to face and asked him why he didn't include creativity in his intelligences. I was not satisfied with his answer. Yes and so I have also mentioned that there is general IQ and governing IQ. There are many different areas of IQ. The SAT still has many different topics even if it is focused on reading, writing and arithmetic, and it has the least number of areas (unless you mean like the Math SAT).

Hmm...its been a while for me since I've studied this, but from memory Gardner was more focused on 'types' of intelligence. Almost like subject areas. So he would see creativity as being an inherent property of being intelligent in linguistics (for example) but not that it would necessarily carry over to other areas (musicality).
DeBono was more focused on modes of thought, and creativity was certainly one of those. Perhaps combining the two gives a useful matrix?

 

[A Spirit Runs Through It]

I'm....having doubts about whether it is the logical thing to do....

In your case, it is illogical to do.

For you said,

I don't follow God's laws and I don't know his principle behind it.

You identify as Jewish in terms of religion, however, you do not adhere to Judaism’s precepts, and you seem to disagree with them. That is like owning a house but never utilizing it – which is illogical. Why even own the house to begin with?

It is as though you are saying, "I own a house but I never live there. So, is it logical that I should use it?" And the answer is, obviously, yes.

Or, perhaps, sell the house and buy another, one which you will actually use.

 

[robocop (actually)]

Hmm...its been a while for me since I've studied this, but from memory Gardner was more focused on 'types' of intelligence. Almost like subject areas. So he would see creativity as being an inherent property of being intelligent in linguistics (for example) but not that it would necessarily carry over to other areas (musicality).
DeBono was more focused on modes of thought, and creativity was certainly one of those. Perhaps combining the two gives a useful matrix?

Yes it's all a rich tapestry.

 

[Kenny]

A fair point, but my thinking is as follows;
If the Christians are right, the Muslims and Hindus are not. If the Muslims are right, then the Christians and Hindus are not. And so on.
That's without even considering the enormous diversity of belief sitting within Christianity (for example).

True... and if the Hindus are correct then the Muslims and Christians are not.

But if Jesus IS the Truth, the way and the life... then one must consider ones options.

 

[lewisnotmiller]

True... and if the Hindus are correct then the Muslims and Christians are not.

But if Jesus IS the Truth, the way and the life... then one must consider ones options.

Yep. So whilst I personally dont believe, that's true enough. My logic (as stated) suggests that many religions are wrong. Not that they're all wrong.

 

[syo]

we, christians, follow the rules of god of the new testament, because the rules are about love. isn't love the greatest thing?

 

[natasha levchenko]

I believe God as described by Judaism exist, but I am baffled by why so many people believe that becuase a god or goddess exists that we should agree with their rules and attitudes.

Why is this so prevelant?

Thanks for your time and please play nice.

Why do children obey their parents?
If parents are just and fair children never question their authority .and they abide by the rules.
If you believe in God and understand that he is the Creator of universal Justice it not difficult to agree with the rules.

1John5:3 ssys"For this is what the love of God means, that we observe his commandments;+ and yet his commandments are not burdensome"
It is very hard to agree with God unless you love Him

 

[natasha levchenko]

But Christians seem to believe in enternal suffering for non-Christians.

Eternal suffering???
To die then to be born to die again???

 

[URAVIP2ME]

But Christians seem to believe in enternal suffering for non-Christians.
Where is that in scripture?

Please keep in mind there is a BIG difference between the 1st-century teachings of Christ and Christendom.
Christendom began long after Jesus was on Earth, and Christendom is 'so-called Christianity'.

The eternal suffering teaching is a non-biblical teaching just being taught as Scripture.
Apparently the present Pope even knows Psalms 92:7 that the wicked are to be destroyed forever.
In other words, the day is coming when the wicked will vanish from the Earth.
The executional words from Jesus' mouth, according to Isaiah 11:3-4 and Revelation 19:14-16, will bring an end to the wicked. So, scripturally it is Not eternal suffering, but eternal destruction as in annihilation for the wicked.

 

[URAVIP2ME]

............. In my view God isn't like us and isn't interested in "small details" as it were.

Seems to me that Jesus is teaching that his God is interested in ' small details' as it were at Matthew 10:29-30.
Even a small sparrow falling to the ground is noticed by God, and He knows the numbers of the hairs on our heads.

 

[Jumi]

Seems to me that Jesus is teaching that his God is interested in ' small details' as it were at Matthew 10:29-30.
Even a small sparrow falling to the ground is noticed by God, and He knows the numbers of the hairs on our heads.

Having an interest in and knowing are not the same things.

If you wanted to have someone play the guitar, you might ignore the fact that you didn't like how their parents got together even if you knew such a thing.

...Also I suspect that my view of God coming from my mystical experiences is different from reading the Christian Bible.

 

[URAVIP2ME]

Having an interest in and knowing are not the same things.
If you wanted to have someone play the guitar, you might ignore the fact that you didn't like how their parents got together even if you knew such a thing.
...Also I suspect that my view of God coming from my mystical experiences is different from reading the Christian Bible.

Thank you for your reply.
Seems to me God has both interest and knowledge as mentioned at Matthew 10:29-30.
Yes, I agree a mystical experience is different from studying or being educated in the Bible.

I find at John 17:3 is Jesus' ' call to action ' for us to know and have interest in God.
If a person wants to play the guitar then practice is involved.
Researching the Bible is like practice even if one doesn't like how their parents got together.
We are all free to act responsibly toward God despite circumstances known or unknown.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

we, christians, follow the rules of god of the new testament, because the rules are about love. isn't love the greatest thing?

I see very little love in the New Testament, myself.

 

[URAVIP2ME]

I see very little love in the New Testament, myself.

I see Very Big Love as found at John 13:34-35 to have the same self-sacrificing love for others as Jesus has.
Under the temporary Constitution of the Mosaic Law was the Golden Rule to love others as self.
Jesus enlarged upon that love to now love others ' more ' than self.

 

[Kelly of the Phoenix]

Even a small sparrow falling to the ground is noticed by God, and He knows the numbers of the hairs on our heads.

And the dead sparrows and shed hair are still lost, though.

 

[URAVIP2ME]

And the dead sparrows and shed hair are still lost, though.

Yes, agree lost, however if Adam had Not broken God's law then Adam would still be alive and in perfect physical health, so Adam would still have a healthy head of hair. What Adam lost for us (perfect health) is what Jesus will re-gain for us. Adam lost access to the Garden of Eden's ' tree of life ', through Christ mankind will see the return of that Genesis ' tree of life ' for the purpose that there will be ' healing ' for earth's nations according to Revelation 22:2.
So, we have a grand wonderful future in store for righteous mankind when, according to 1 Corinthians 15:26, even ' enemy death ' will be No more on Earth. That means: everyone will always have a healthy head of hair.

 

[Dantedeven]

But why would they think that God's opinion of good and evil is any more objective than any other beings'?

Important to know that Good and Evil are not from God, but from Lucifer. Who named God good and himself evil.

 

[robocop (actually)]

Can is not the same thing as should.

I believe we should feel sympathetic for every individual person, not specific peoples.

Not to beat at a dead horse, but I remember hearing that Harvard Professors are almost all Jewish. Not sure why, just thought it worth pointing out.

 

[paarsurrey]

Why Agree with God?

I think it a relevant question:
Why disagree with (the Merciful and Benevolent) G-d?
Regards

 

[robocop (actually)]

Can is not the same thing as should.

I believe we should feel sympathetic for every individual person, not specific peoples.

Hi Naama! I was just reading in "Comparitive Religions for Dummies" and found this interesting statement:

"At least 173 Jews and people of half-Jewish ancestry have received the Nobel Prize, accounting for 23 percent of all individual recipients worldwide since 1901. More than 37 percent of American Nobel Prize winners have been Jewish."
"In research fields like chemistry, economics, medicine and physics, 27 percent of all winners worldwide have been Jewish. Almost 40 percent of the American winners in those categories have been Jewish."
"The largest percentage of Jewish Nobel Prize winners has been in economics. In this category, 55 percent of the U.S. recipients have been Jewish."
This book goes on...!