Amani_Bhava
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Actually arguing if Beethoven is better than rapid usage of B word (female dog) and calling it a song
namaste
amani_bhava
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Why are Indians not more outspoken more about racism in India?
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Actually arguing if Beethoven is better than rapid usage of B word (female dog) and calling it a song
namaste
amani_bhava
I prefer Beethoven, having never developed a taste for modern 'music'.
I have nothing against it, just as I have nothing against nudes in paintings and sculptures. They express an aspect of human condition that gets repressed by society. That is the function of any art, to uncover things that are hidden in society and in human psyche.
Amani_Bhava
Member
How about Wagner. Consider his music the best of the classical genre.
Amani_Bhava
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Neither do I have anything against nudes .. but to address females using B word shows that I was correct .. these singers are degenerate
Those who like these singers are degenerate too
namaste
amani_bhava
Good to know your views. I would consider such views examples of narrow minded snobbery.
Subhoratri.
Amani_Bhava
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I am a Brahmo .. what did you expect from me!! That I will hug people of common taste?
We are born snobs through and through .. namaste
amani_bhava
I am beating a dead horse here. But,
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And hip-hop is urban folk art, period. And that urban folk art is about the lives of a very unique group of people, of how they made something out of nothing, and how that nothing has come to define an entire era in many ways, be it our language, our fashion, our attitudes, our art, the way we make music, and the way we do and do not communicate across race, gender, geography, and cultures.
I think the fact that the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame (the originators of this exhibition) and now the Brooklyn Museum of Art have taken on "Hip-Hop Nation" is a mainstream institutional recognition that hip-hop is the most important youth culture on the planet, bar none. And that has been the case for some time.
The Role of Hip Hop in Culture - Thought Economics
Breaking News, Analysis, Politics, Blogs, News Photos, Video, Tech Reviews - TIME.com
And hip-hop is urban folk art, period. And that urban folk art is about the lives of a very unique group of people, of how they made something out of nothing, and how that nothing has come to define an entire era in many ways, be it our language, our fashion, our attitudes, our art, the way we make music, and the way we do and do not communicate across race, gender, geography, and cultures.
I think the fact that the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame (the originators of this exhibition) and now the Brooklyn Museum of Art have taken on "Hip-Hop Nation" is a mainstream institutional recognition that hip-hop is the most important youth culture on the planet, bar none. And that has been the case for some time.
The Role of Hip Hop in Culture - Thought Economics
Yes. Own it my dear bangali snob. Best.I am a Brahmo .. what did you expect from me!! That I will hug people of common taste?
namaste
amani_bhava
I'm not a hugger.Can I hug you
namaste
amani_bhava
But we could....
Amani_Bhava
Member
Absolutely marvellous ideaI'm not a hugger.
But we could....
namaste
amani_bhava
Meh...although it's great for helicopter attacks.
Not only non-native speakers, my dear sayak.
Also, while I'm here, I feel it would be remiss not to include the lyrics of a prominent hip-hop artist from the UK, Plan B. This one is called Ill Manors. It's really saying some stuff.
Let’s all go on an urban safari
We might see some illegal migrants
Oi look there’s a chav
That means council housed and violent
He’s got a hoodie on give him a hug
On second thoughts don’t you don’t wanna get mugged
Oh **** too late that was kinda dumb
Whose idea was that stupid
He’s got some front, ain’t we all
Be the joker, play the fool
What’s politics, ain’t it all
Smoke and mirrors, April fools
All year round, all in all
Just another brick in the wall
Get away with murder in the schools
Use four letter swear words coz we’re cool
We’re all drinkers, drug takers
Every single one of us buns the herb
Keep on believing what you read in the papers
Council estate kids, scum of the earth
Think you know how life on a council estate is
From everything you’ve ever read about it or heard
Well it’s all true, so stay where you’re safest
There’s no need to step foot out the ‘burbs
Truth is here, we’re all disturbed
We cheat and lie its so absurd
Feed the fear that’s what we’ve learned
Fuel the fire
Let it burn
Oi! I said Oi
What you looking at you little rich boy
We’re poor ’round here, run home and lock your door
Don’t come ’round here no more, you could get robbed for
Real (yeah) because my manor's ill
My manor's ill
For real
Yeah you know my manor's ill, my manor's ill
You could get lost in this concrete jungle
New builds keep springing up outta nowhere
Take the wrong turn down a one way junction
Find yourself in the hood nobody goes there
We got an Eco-friendly government
They preserve our natural habitat
Built an entire Olympic village
Around where we live without pulling down any flats
Give us free money and we don’t pay any tax
NHS healthcare, yes please many thanks
People get stabbed round here there’s many shanks
Nice knowing someone’s got our backs when we get attacked
Don’t bloody give me that
I’ll lose my temper
Who closed down the community center?
I kill time there used to be a member
What will I do now ’til September?
Schools out, rules out, get your bloody tools out
London’s burning, I predict a riot
Fall in fall out
Who knows what it’s all about
What did that chief say? Something bout the kaisers
Kids on the street no they never miss a beat
Never miss a cheap thrill when it comes their way
Let’s go looting
No not Luton
The high street’s closer cover your face
And if we see any rich kids on the way we’ll make ‘em wish they stayed inside
There’s a charge for congestion, everybody’s gotta pay
Do what Boris does rob them blind
Oi! I said Oi
What you looking at you little rich boy
We’re poor ’round here, run home and lock your door
Don’t come ’round here no more, you could get robbed for
Real (yeah) because my manor's ill
My manor's ill
For real
Yeah you know my manor's ill, my manor's ill
We’ve had it with you politicians
you bloody rich kids never listen
There’s no such thing as broken Britain
We’re just bloody broke in Britain
What needs fixing is the system
Not shop windows down in Brixton
Riots on the television
You can’t put us all in prison
Oi! I said Oi
What you looking at you little rich boy
We’re poor ’round here, run home and lock your door
Don’t come ’round here no more, you could get robbed for
Real (yeah) because my manor's ill
My manor's ill
For real
Yeah you know my manor's ill , my manor's ill
We might see some illegal migrants
Oi look there’s a chav
That means council housed and violent
He’s got a hoodie on give him a hug
On second thoughts don’t you don’t wanna get mugged
Oh **** too late that was kinda dumb
Whose idea was that stupid
He’s got some front, ain’t we all
Be the joker, play the fool
What’s politics, ain’t it all
Smoke and mirrors, April fools
All year round, all in all
Just another brick in the wall
Get away with murder in the schools
Use four letter swear words coz we’re cool
We’re all drinkers, drug takers
Every single one of us buns the herb
Keep on believing what you read in the papers
Council estate kids, scum of the earth
Think you know how life on a council estate is
From everything you’ve ever read about it or heard
Well it’s all true, so stay where you’re safest
There’s no need to step foot out the ‘burbs
Truth is here, we’re all disturbed
We cheat and lie its so absurd
Feed the fear that’s what we’ve learned
Fuel the fire
Let it burn
Oi! I said Oi
What you looking at you little rich boy
We’re poor ’round here, run home and lock your door
Don’t come ’round here no more, you could get robbed for
Real (yeah) because my manor's ill
My manor's ill
For real
Yeah you know my manor's ill, my manor's ill
You could get lost in this concrete jungle
New builds keep springing up outta nowhere
Take the wrong turn down a one way junction
Find yourself in the hood nobody goes there
We got an Eco-friendly government
They preserve our natural habitat
Built an entire Olympic village
Around where we live without pulling down any flats
Give us free money and we don’t pay any tax
NHS healthcare, yes please many thanks
People get stabbed round here there’s many shanks
Nice knowing someone’s got our backs when we get attacked
Don’t bloody give me that
I’ll lose my temper
Who closed down the community center?
I kill time there used to be a member
What will I do now ’til September?
Schools out, rules out, get your bloody tools out
London’s burning, I predict a riot
Fall in fall out
Who knows what it’s all about
What did that chief say? Something bout the kaisers
Kids on the street no they never miss a beat
Never miss a cheap thrill when it comes their way
Let’s go looting
No not Luton
The high street’s closer cover your face
And if we see any rich kids on the way we’ll make ‘em wish they stayed inside
There’s a charge for congestion, everybody’s gotta pay
Do what Boris does rob them blind
Oi! I said Oi
What you looking at you little rich boy
We’re poor ’round here, run home and lock your door
Don’t come ’round here no more, you could get robbed for
Real (yeah) because my manor's ill
My manor's ill
For real
Yeah you know my manor's ill, my manor's ill
We’ve had it with you politicians
you bloody rich kids never listen
There’s no such thing as broken Britain
We’re just bloody broke in Britain
What needs fixing is the system
Not shop windows down in Brixton
Riots on the television
You can’t put us all in prison
Oi! I said Oi
What you looking at you little rich boy
We’re poor ’round here, run home and lock your door
Don’t come ’round here no more, you could get robbed for
Real (yeah) because my manor's ill
My manor's ill
For real
Yeah you know my manor's ill , my manor's ill
I am a Brahmo .. what did you expect from me!! That I will hug people of common taste?
namaste
amani_bhava
You're a Brahmo? Interesting, I didn't know that. Which group? Any in particular?
Amani_Bhava
Member
Sadharan Brahmo Samaj .. you know about Brahmos? Curious. Most Indians do not
namaste
amani_bhava
You may well be right, as far as averages go, but 50% of any group lies above the mean and 50% below. So it's by no means a sure-fire tell.
But intelligence is not a simple thing, there are many different kinds of intelligence, and many different ways of looking at people. To be honest, I'm not even sure that to say a person is more or less intelligent means much. But even if it does, does that mean analytical intelligence, emotional intelligence...? An American researcher proposed in the '80s that there are nine types of intelligence (infographic below). A doctor/lawyer/etc might well test highly on one or some of these metrics, but a builder, a gardener, a nurse, a cleaner, would likely rank highly on others. IQ is by no means a complete or reliable picture of something as nebulous as intelligence.
And no, I certainly wouldn't advocate discarding anybody's views - be it a doctor's or a bus driver's.
I have found that I have none of these qualities. Is there any other kind?
In fact I am high on some negative qualities. Just 3 days back I asked a chauffeur of an official car whether we had ever met or not. He replied "I was driving for you when you vomited in car during the HLC meet. I have accompanied you to Mehsana a total 7 times, to Ahmedabad 5 times. Once I drove you to Tharad when you had crick in your neck .....".
When I asked my doctor, he confirmed that it was early senility.
Then I told him I had been like that since I had my consciousness.
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What a comparison, man. Has Beethoven ever won a single Grammy? Or Pulitzer? Tell me.
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Seriously. Can a classical work that has stood the test of time (or a master) be compared to the passing fads of times?
I think only the time can tell.
Some, yes. Much of it by way of my knowledge about the Ramakrishna movement and the Unitarian movement, both of which have had relations with the Brahmo Samaj.
What would you say distinguishes the Sadharan Brahmo Samaj from the other groups?
I have found that I have none of these qualities. Is there any other kind?
In fact I am high on some negative qualities. Just 3 days back I asked a chauffeur of an official car whether we had ever met or not. He replied "I was driving for you when you vomited in car during the HLC meet. I have accompanied you to Mehsana a total 7 times, to Ahmedabad 5 times. Once I drove you to Tharad when you had crick in your neck .....".
When I asked my doctor, he confirmed that it was early senility.
Nisargadatta says the world is produced from memory - so maybe you're better off!
What were you doing in an official car? :O
What a comparison, man. Has Beethoven ever won a single Grammy? Or Pulitzer? Tell me.
...
Seriously. Can a classical work that has stood the test of time (or a master) be compared to the passing fads of times?
Ah, I don't know if Beethoven is standing the test of time - I reckon less people listen to Beethoven now than 50 years ago - give it a century and we might know Plan B and Kendrick Lamar better
Anyway, that's not the point - hip-hop is an expression of urban folk culture and therefore real
I don't recall entirely - are you Bengali, atanu?
Yes. Here the world often fades.
Traveling on official work, of course.
Ah, I don't know if Beethoven is standing the test of time - I reckon less people listen to Beethoven now than 50 years ago - give it a century and we might know Plan B and Kendrick Lamar better
Anyway, that's not the point - hip-hop is an expression of urban folk culture and therefore real
I think that Beethoven's 'Fate' is an ultimate design with sound waves .. and surely of divine inspiration.
I have no prejudice, however, and I have very wide choice in music, including folk (150 GB of personal music collection). But the particular urban folk, that you extol, somehow does not touch me. But as I said "Time will decide".
Yes.
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Amani_Bhava
Member
By the time I was born the Samaj was ageing. By the time I grew up it was in intensive care. From what I have read there is not much metaphysical difference but it was due to personality clashes.
I am not an expert on Brahmoism. The golden era of Brahmoism was between 1900 and 1950 or so .. far before I was born
I have attended few marriage, death (sradhha) ceremonies carried out the Brahmo way .. some Sunday masses when I was a kid (are there Sunday masses now .. I honestly do not know)
According to 2001 census there are no more than 180 Brahmos in India .. there are around 2,000 Brahmos in Calcutta or less.
namaste
amani_bhava
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