Why are insurance costs out of control with the 'Affordable Healthcare Act"

[Quetzal]

Speak for yourself.
I pay a boatload of taxes, & get little in return.

Do you feel you are taxed unfairly in comparison to others?

 

[buddhist]

That has absolutely nothing to do with what I requested.

I wasn't addressing your concern.

 

[Revoltingest]

It's bound to happen. I don't benefit from schools being kidless (directly, anyways), but I recognize that society benefits from it, and the benefits outweigh the costs. I don't benefit from police or firefighters either, really, since I live so far out in the country. But it's better that people who do get to use them have them than go without. We really don't even benefit from well maintaned or cared for roads out here either, but it's really nice when they finally do dump some money into it instead of placing patches upon patches. That's kind of how it works. Some funds the entire general population more-or-less benefits from it, and some of it only certain groups will benefit. Some are well off enough they won't benefit beyond what everybody else gets. Is it supposed to be a problem they make plenty of money to afford everything without assistance even after paying taxes?

The difference between us is that I pay far far far more in taxes.
Moreover, government is my daily enemy, eg, illegal property tax increases, capricious
legal environment for development, IRS audits, enduring frivolous lawsuits.

 

[Revoltingest]

Do you feel you are taxed unfairly in comparison to others?

Yes.
But before you ask, it would be inappropriate to give any numbers.

Example #1....
Our state has legal limitations & requirements for property tax amounts & increases.
My county & state regularly hit us with illegally high increases. So I spend much
money & time fighting these, & always win reductions. But they continue to do it
because they have no cost associated with their actions, & they know most won't fight.

Example #2....
I not only pay higher property taxes than are legally appropriate, I also spend money
on lawyers & researchers to defend myself against this. So our country has an economic
burden due to the dead hand of bureaucracy & predatory government.

Example #3....
People think that roads are paid for by taxes in general.
This is not so accurate. In front of my properties, if roads are repaired, I get a special
assessment based upon my frontage. We businesses pay the entire cost....over &
above the taxes we pay supposedly for roads. Sidewalks get this treatment too.
I get no choice in this. The township or city does it by fiat.

 

[buddhist]

Yes.
But before you ask, it would be inappropriate to give any numbers.

Example #1....
Our state has legal limitations & requirements for property tax amounts & increases.
My county & state regularly hit us with illegally high increases. So I spend much
money & time fighting these, & always win reductions. But they continue to do it
because they have no cost associated with their actions, & they know most won't fight.

Example #2....
I not only pay higher property taxes than are legally appropriate, I also spend money
on lawyers & researchers to defend myself against this. So our country has an economic
burden due to the dead hand of bureaucracy & predatory government.

Example #3....
People think that roads are paid for by taxes in general.
This is not so accurate. In front of my properties, if roads are repaired, I get a special
assessment based upon my frontage. We businesses pay the entire cost....over &
above the taxes we pay supposedly for roads. Sidewalks get this treatment too.
I get no choice in this. The township or city does it by fiat.

In terms of your business, aren't you (likely) holding equitable title on private, corporate land?

 

[Revoltingest]

In terms of your business, aren't you (likely) holding equitable title on private, corporate land?

With mortgage borrowing (unlike a land contracts or contract for deed, I hold the title.
And I don't have any corporations, just LLCs.

Btw, an LLC is a wonderful way to own real estate in our byzantine legal system.

 

[buddhist]

With mortgage borrowing (unlike a land contracts or contract for deed, I hold the title.

I meant, your business is likely situated within another corporation who can charge ("tax") you as much as they wish for the privilege.

 

[Revoltingest]

I meant, your business is likely situated within another corporation who can charge ("tax") you as much as they wish for the privilege.

I'm not following this.

 

[buddhist]

I'm not following this.

Let's say you decide to open a store inside, say, a Wal-Mart. With your business located within private property, Wal-Mart Corporation (essentially your local government) would likely regulate you and charge you for the privilege, and you would see it as a "tax".

In the same way, the "municipality" your business is located within is likely also incorporated; your business is therefore located within private property (e.g. Gainesville Corporation, Florida, for example), and they charge you what they wish for the privilege.

 

[Revoltingest]

Let's say you decide to open a store inside, say, a Wal-Mart. With your business located within private property, Wal-Mart Corporation (essentially your local government) would likely regulate you and charge you for the privilege, and you would see it as a "tax".

In the same way, the "municipality" your business is located within is likely also incorporated; your business is therefore located within private property (e.g. Gainesville Corporation, Florida, for example), and they charge you what they wish for the privilege.

I don't sublease from anyone.
I have clear title to'm all.
I don't think my county or state are corporations.

 

[buddhist]

I don't sublease from anyone.
I have clear title to'm all.
I don't think my county or state are corporations.

If you had full title & full ownership, and not simply equitable title, you wouldn't be paying taxes to a local authority - only to the State.

 

[Revoltingest]

If you had full title & full ownership, and not simply equitable title, you wouldn't be paying taxes to a local authority - only to the State.

Equitable title doesn't function much differently from full title.
Property taxes are paid to the county, which is charged with collecting them.
Then it gives money to the state.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

I wasn't addressing your concern.

You was. I asked for evidene to support your claim, your provided "cause and effect," but that does not address the point your made an evidenceless claim, and still have not provided evidence.
Thus, you appear to have absolutely nothing to back up your claim that shame and embarrassment are effective motivators, not beyond your own desires and thinking that it does.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

The difference between us is that I pay far far far more in taxes.

You make far far far more money than I do. And even after those taxes, you still have a crap ton more money than I do.

 

[buddhist]

You was. I asked for evidene to support your claim, your provided "cause and effect," but that does not address the point your made an evidenceless claim, and still have not provided evidence.
Thus, you appear to have absolutely nothing to back up your claim that shame and embarrassment are effective motivators, not beyond your own desires and thinking that it does.

Untrue. My evidence is my own life experience with cause and effect, and with embarassment.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Untrue. My evidence is my own life experience with cause and effect, and with embarassment.

That isn't evidence.

 

[buddhist]

That isn't evidence.

It's evidence to me.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

It's evidence to me.

That's called "anecdotal." It's your experience, and your perception of your experience, but anecdotal experiences do not provide evidence for general trends in human psychology.

 

[buddhist]

That's called "anecdotal." It's your experience, and your perception of your experience, but anecdotal experiences do not provide evidence for general trends in human psychology.

I can only live and act according to my personal knowledge, not according to someone else's alleged knowledge.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

I can only live and act according to my personal knowledge, not according to someone else's alleged knowledge.

You call yourself a Buddhist, ergo, you live by some else's knowledge.