PureX
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And yet here you are, the one in 'knee-jerk' 'defend mode. And with the old, "nut-huh, YOU did it!" argument, to boot!
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Why are most people who answer my questions atheists ?
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Audie
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PureX
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Interesting how any and every word out of a theist's mouth is tantamount to a glaring unconditional decaration of universal truth, while all the insults and arguments and demands for proof from the atheist in response indicates not even the slightest hint of a position or bias, at all.
For me it was a set of experiences backed up by a thread of logic starting with "If God exists" - the head (logic) reinforced and supported the "heart".
Some people divide issues like this into right (my position) and wrong (those who disagree). In this case by ignoring all the deep thinking on the part of theists.
PureX
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Actually, the real issue is "belief". Eventually a lot of people come to realize that believing in things that have no basis in their own experience is a waste of time and energy. And that applies to a lot of the religiosity that people are raised with. So they eventually reject it as pointless and ineffectual.
But some of them eventually will come to realize that belief or unbelief are not the only options. That there is also the option of faith. And faith is based on hope, not blind pretense (as belief is), so it can have a very real and positive effect in someone's life when acted upon. And so they may choose to pick up their old religion, again. But this time it's on a whole new basis: the basis of faith, not blind belief.
I agree with most of the atheist's complaints about religion as blind belief. But that's always where they stop, because that's what serves their bias against religion. I am not biased against religion as a whole because I understand that as a faith choice, it can be and is very positive and valuable for a great many people. I am only biased against religion as 'belief dogma'. Because I think that's mostly ineffectual, and dishonest.
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Why should that be a surprise? Atheists aren't generally making any positive claims about something, and without that, there's little reason to begin a dialogue.
I would not be surprised if some atheists did the same thing when a small number of people post thread after thread after thread of nonsense with the same theme and purpose.
Einstein's theories of relativity had no proof when he first proposed it. So it was "imaginary, fantasy" in your mind based on what you wrote.
I don't know. Is the membership biased to a larger number of atheists or is it just that atheists are more interested in responding to such questions as you pose.
I think there is a contingent of theists here that are less interested in what others have to say and more interested in getting others to accept their personal views as facts and follow them. Of course the rules prohibit this directly, but there are indirect means to attempt it.
There are people here claiming to be Christian, Jewish and Muslim. The order is my bias, but they are here. Among these are a variety of ways in which that claim is fulfilled.
I would think that the majority of people here hold some spiritual views at a variety of extents and those atheists tend to be more prominent are more often agnostic atheists than hard atheists that make positive statements of rejection of gods.
I have answered some of your posts. I am a Christian.
That is itself a biased opinion based solely on faith and not on facts.
You would be eliminated by your own definition.
This is the Biblical definition of FAITH:
Heb. 11:1 Faith is the assured expectation of what is hoped for, the evident demonstration [or: convincing evidence] of realities that are not seen.
About FAITH, the Biblical Encyclopedia of JWs Insight on the Scriptures partially says:
Heb. 11:1 Faith is the assured expectation of what is hoped for, the evident demonstration [or: convincing evidence] of realities that are not seen.
About FAITH, the Biblical Encyclopedia of JWs Insight on the Scriptures partially says:
So, although many atheists are unaware of this reality, faith is not credulity.
So your faith is based on what JWs say?
Faith is believing without evidence. Confirmation bias is not assured expectation. Where is the evidence demonstration?
Your interpretation and differs from mine and you've only faith that yours is correct for your personal, subjective reasons.
Atheism has nothing to do with universal truth. Inasmuch as it proposes nothing at all, it's not connected to any claim of truth. What we're doing here is responding to your truth-claims and arguments.
Our pointing out faults is not meant as a personal insult. If we call you irrational or obtuse it's because you're arguing a position that conforms to the definition of irrational, or are sticking to a position after all support has been demonstrated to be illusory.
Requiring objective supporting evidence before accepting a claim is not a position, and any bias is for veracity, reason or logic.
If you find a factual or logical error in any of my threads, please point it out. If I persist, feel free to call me obtuse.
What objective facts? Huh? What evidence? Huh?
I don't know that what atheists think is irrelevant or a figment of imagination.What an atheist thinks about this is just a figment of his own imagination.
Can you show us?
Or does this just eliminate your claimed defnition?
If you say so.
In my experience both kinds of people that you describe above are rather atypical of their respective larger groups.